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Old 01-28-2013, 08:26 AM  
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Alex Smith to ask for release

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If no draft picks are involved, does that change your opinion on bringing him in?

Draft pick, Smith, Stanzi(?) as your QB's in camp.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:34 PM   #241
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All I'm pointing out is that there are viable alternatives for Reid and Dorsey.

Taking the "sixth best" QB in the 2011 draft has worked out well for San Fran.
And with the season kapearnick and Wilson have had you can bet the farm that teams are really going to start over drafting and reaching on QBs
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:34 PM   #242
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I would agree, I don't think he'd come here if we were going to draft a QB at 1. But if he was interested in the idea of coming here despite that, I'd be interested. He's a 28 year old former #1 overall pick. He does have raw talent. But I wouldn't trade picks for him or not draft a QB because of him.

It's unbelievable to me that the same board that one year ago was pining for Kyle flipping Orton thinks Alex Smith is beneath them though. That's crazy.
we didn't have the no. One last year
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:36 PM   #243
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It's unbelievable to me that the same board that one year ago was pining for Kyle flipping Orton thinks Alex Smith is beneath them though. That's crazy.
Kyle Orton is cheap and has a strong arm. Alex Smith is expensive with a noodle arm.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:40 PM   #244
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Exactly.

And we knew Matt Cassel was coming back so of course we would've rather have had Orton than him.

Signing Alex Smith would most likely mean we are giving him the starting job like mentioned, meaning we most likely won't draft a QB #1 overall and if we do draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd, they won't start either.

Meaning Alex Smith is our starting QB for a few years. Yay.

Not.

Same thing this franchise has always done.

Was Smith better under Harbaugh? Sure. Was he a franchise type QB? Of course not. He got benched for a 2nd round pick that never played a down in the NFL yet and he's now about to be released. Franchise QBs don't get released or traded.

But its okay for the Chiefs to sign him up and start him because that's what we've always done and it's always worked out for us right?

Just no to Alex Smith. Unless of course he accepts backing up our draft pick, but he won't.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:47 PM   #245
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Kyle Orton is cheap and has a strong arm. Alex Smith is expensive with a noodle arm.
His arm strength is not great, but it's certainly not a noodle arm. It's definitely more than good enough to run a WCO. Reid had success in the playoffs with Jeff Garcia and his noodle arm, Alex Smith is much better than that.

Kyle Orton is great between the 20s but not when it counts or under pressure.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:47 PM   #246
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I think Dane has been misunderstood here. I don't think he's advocating that this is the best option, but that it is in fact a legitimate option.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:48 PM   #247
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His arm strength is not great, but it's certainly not a noodle arm. It's definitely more than good enough to run a WCO. Reid had success in the playoffs with Jeff Garcia and his noodle arm, Alex Smith is much better than that.

Kyle Orton is great between the 20s but not when it counts or under pressure.
So lets be clear, you want Alex Smith as your starter for the next 5 years?
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:58 PM   #248
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His arm strength is not great, but it's certainly not a noodle arm. It's definitely more than good enough to run a WCO. Reid had success in the playoffs with Jeff Garcia and his noodle arm, Alex Smith is much better than that.

Kyle Orton is great between the 20s but not when it counts or under pressure.
And Alex Smith is not better than Jeff Garcia. (When Garcia was Smiths age) I would actually compare Smith to Garcia.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:58 PM   #249
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So lets be clear, you want Alex Smith as your starter for the next 5 years?
That's exactly what I said. Face palm.

I said clear as day twice that I wouldn't trade picks for the guy or not draft a QB at #1 because of him... but if he was willing to come here in spite of that and risk being a backup, I would consider it, yes. The QB position on this team is an utter disaster and the rest of you are acting like Scott ***** by picking one guy and sticking to it. Dorsey should be doing everything in his power to improve all three spots at the position.

That's what I was pointing out, I like picking out irony. A 28 year old former #1 pick isn't good enough for us because we have the #1 pick, so nothing can go wrong for us now. If you can't pick out the irony in that statement I can't help you.

The other part is pointing out he wasn't good enough for Harbaugh. And you know why he wasn't good enough for Harbaugh? Because he doesn't play the *****-ego game and continues to improve every position regardless of who was picked when, and then plays the best players.

Alex Smith will not get 5 more years with any team to prove himself. But if you're asking me if I'd rather have him than Matt Cassel as the backup, then I would say yes.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:59 PM   #250
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:00 PM   #251
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That's exactly what I said. Face palm.

I said clear as day twice that I wouldn't trade picks for the guy or not draft a QB at #1 because of him... but if he was willing to come here in spite of that and risk being a backup, I would consider it, yes. The QB position on this team is an utter disaster and the rest of you are acting like Scott ***** by picking one guy and sticking to it. Dorsey should be doing everything in his power to improve all three spots at the position.

That's what I was pointing out, I like picking out irony. A 28 year old former #1 pick isn't good enough for us because we have the #1 pick, so nothing can go wrong for us now. If you can't pick out the irony in that statement I can't help you.

The other part is pointing out he wasn't good enough for Harbaugh. And you know why he wasn't good enough for Harbaugh? Because he doesn't play the *****-ego game and continues to improve every position regardless of who was picked when, and then plays the best players.

Alex Smith will not get 5 more years with any team to prove himself. But if you're asking me if I'd rather have him than Matt Cassel as the backup, then I would say yes.
If the Chiefs get Alex Smith he won't be a backup...that's what I'm telling you.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:03 PM   #253
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:07 PM   #254
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:08 PM   #255
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I don't wanna get into a debate with the Geno-is-God cult here. Hypothetically, assessing all possibilities, IF our QBOTF turns out not in this draft, making us wait another year or two, then how much do you think the Chiefs should pay for the tie-over QB Alex Smith?

1- Again, before some of you get your panties up in a bunch, this is hypothetical. I'm not saying do this. I'm saying if the FO were going to do this how much (in draft picks/players) do you approve of them paying the 49ers.

2- If this question has been asked and answered in this thread I don't give a shit and won't go read the entire thread. Just answer the question.
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