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Old 09-15-2012, 09:19 PM  
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***Official Draft Tyler Wilson Thread****

...might as well get this started early.

Perhaps his injury well allow him to slip to the middle of the of the 1st round,..where we tend to draft.




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Old 01-30-2013, 02:41 PM   #2041
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Thats not helping his case man. That guy is an idiot.
Well shit.

That sucks for Wilson.


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Old 01-30-2013, 02:46 PM   #2042
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I 100% endorse this! You should pass this idea along to the Geno Smith thread.
The issue isn't taking a QB in the 2nd. It's what the **** you take in the 1st.

OT and passrusher have been proven dozens of times to be not worth the #1 overall pick this year for the Chiefs. That's how empty-setted the "DRAFT VALYOO!!!111" argument is. It can get turned on its head any which way.

Geno Smith + Xavier Rhodes/a stud from the first who falls?

Or Damontre Moore and Tyler ****ing Bray?

You kidding me? Is that even an option?
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:51 PM   #2043
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If we're not drafting a QB in the first and Albert's back is OK, Milliner is the selection that makes the most sense in my view.

Yeah, he's "not worth the spot," but he's the best talent + need combo available to us.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:54 PM   #2044
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If we're not drafting a QB in the first and Albert's back is OK, Milliner is the selection that makes the most sense in my view.

Yeah, he's "not worth the spot," but he's the best talent + need combo available to us.
I agree with this. He's also only 20 years old and he's a BAMF.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:04 PM   #2045
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Yeah, but even with Milliner being a really solid prospect, is he that much better than Rhodes or some of the other Cb's who might be there in the second round?

I'm sure someone will fire with a "same thing with QB's" across my bow, but its not.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:18 PM   #2046
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Yeah, but even with Milliner being a really solid prospect, is he that much better than Rhodes or some of the other Cb's who might be there in the second round?

I'm sure someone will fire with a "same thing with QB's" across my bow, but its not.
That's one of the issues this year. Any comment that can be made about QB can be made about any other position, and vice versa.

Which is why, speaking for myself, I'm so strongly on the idea of drafting QB. Because when player value is equal (and I believe it basically is for all of the top 10 this year - no one has so far separated himself as a or the dominant player) you have to weigh position, and QB is far and away the highest positional value, both in general terms and specific to need here to Kansas City. So if you have, say, Joeckel, Star, Moore, Werner, Fisher, Milliner, and Geno Smith all on the same relative talent tier, Geno Smith leap-frogs them all because of positional value.

Or, since we're in the Tyler Wilson thread, swap Geno's name out for him if that's how your board lays. Same idea, different name.

(And we're likely talking a 2nd quarterback going somewhere in the teens in this draft, if not the top 10; I think people expecting to find Wilson or Barkley at 34 are dreaming).
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:29 PM   #2047
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The issue isn't taking a QB in the 2nd. It's what the **** you take in the 1st.

OT and passrusher have been proven dozens of times to be not worth the #1 overall pick this year for the Chiefs. That's how empty-setted the "DRAFT VALYOO!!!111" argument is. It can get turned on its head any which way.

Geno Smith + Xavier Rhodes/a stud from the first who falls?

Or Damontre Moore and Tyler ****ing Bray?

You kidding me? Is that even an option?
I was being sarcastic.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:33 PM   #2048
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Well shit.

That sucks for Wilson.


You do now that Shawn Zobel is pretty much an idiot, right?
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:33 PM   #2049
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That's one of the issues this year. Any comment that can be made about QB can be made about any other position, and vice versa.

Which is why, speaking for myself, I'm so strongly on the idea of drafting QB. Because when player value is equal (and I believe it basically is for all of the top 10 this year - no one has so far separated himself as a or the dominant player) you have to weigh position, and QB is far and away the highest positional value, both in general terms and specific to need here to Kansas City. So if you have, say, Joeckel, Star, Moore, Werner, Fisher, Milliner, and Geno Smith all on the same relative talent tier, Geno Smith leap-frogs them all because of positional value.

Or, since we're in the Tyler Wilson thread, swap Geno's name out for him if that's how your board lays. Same idea, different name.

(And we're likely talking a 2nd quarterback going somewhere in the teens in this draft, if not the top 10; I think people expecting to find Wilson or Barkley at 34 are dreaming).
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:34 PM   #2050
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That's one of the issues this year. Any comment that can be made about QB can be made about any other position, and vice versa.

Which is why, speaking for myself, I'm so strongly on the idea of drafting QB. Because when player value is equal (and I believe it basically is for all of the top 10 this year - no one has so far separated himself as a or the dominant player) you have to weigh position, and QB is far and away the highest positional value, both in general terms and specific to need here to Kansas City. So if you have, say, Joeckel, Star, Moore, Werner, Fisher, Milliner, and Geno Smith all on the same relative talent tier, Geno Smith leap-frogs them all because of positional value.

Or, since we're in the Tyler Wilson thread, swap Geno's name out for him if that's how your board lays. Same idea, different name.

(And we're likely talking a 2nd quarterback going somewhere in the teens in this draft, if not the top 10; I think people expecting to find Wilson or Barkley at 34 are dreaming).
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I admit that there have been some really impressive 2nd/3rd round QB prospects the last couple of years (Dalton, Kaepernick, Wilson) who looked like better prospects than a lot of first round QB's (Weeden, Locker, Gabbert, Ponder), but there are no good QB prospects like those guys in this draft.

If we want a QB, you take at 1 even if it is a reach. I don't give a flying **** if analysts say we "reached" for a QB or not. It's the most important position in all of sports. That's the one position where it is okay to reach IMO.
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I admit that there have been some really impressive 2nd/3rd round QB prospects the last couple of years (Dalton, Kaepernick, Wilson) who looked like better prospects than a lot of first round QB's (Weeden, Locker, Gabbert, Ponder), but there are no good QB prospects like those guys in this draft.

If we want a QB, you take at 1 even if it is a reach. I don't give a flying **** if analysts say we "reached" for a QB or not. It's the most important position in all of sports. That's the one position where it is okay to reach IMO.
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two things any Vols fan will tell that they have gripes about and they are Bray is immature and Dooley did a shitty job coaching him up.

If he can get over being a party boy and gets in the right situation then you'll see a Marino like turn around. He is the biggest boom or bust prospect in this draft though which I've always said.
Would you shut the **** up about Marino?
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