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Old 01-30-2013, 10:43 AM  
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Pastor refuses to tip "I give GOD 10% why do you get 18%"

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Unhappy with having to pay a restaurant's auto-gratuity of 18% for parties of eight or more, a pissed-off pastor used his receipt to express his indignation.

"I give God 10% — why do you get 18?," the man wrote above the autograt line before crossing out the pre-printed tip and signing the receipt "pastor."

The St. Louis-area server who posted a pic of the receipt on Reddit said the pastor was dining with a party of 20, and asked to have the $200+ bill broken up into smaller increments in a failed attempt to avoid paying the 18% tip.

"They had no problem with my service, and told me I was great," the server said. "They just didn't want to pay when the time came."

Redditors have been trying to track down the less-than-charitable Christian, but have so far been unable to identify the culprit.

At least one pastor was forced to issue a response denying responsibility, and the server herself has asked fellow Redditors to stop posting personal information of random people "who don't deserve a Reddit mob banging down their Internet door."

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UPDATE

Edit: Pastor has now apologized -- waitress fired.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documen...logizes-687234










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Old 01-30-2013, 05:02 PM   #286
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First off, let me say I have no problem with tipping. I dont fall into the stereotypical black man that doesnt tip category...I tip well. But I'm tired of hearing about waiters and waitresses not making shit. Ive dated several waitresses in my day and all of them made more money than me with no education than I do with a college degree. And they ALL cheated on their taxes by only reporting about half.
Agreed. 100%

The complaining waiter/waitress is a sham.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:02 PM   #287
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Ok, so take that 18% and instead of hoping the patrons leave that as a consistent tip, and give it straight to the wait staff. Ok they get an 18% lift in income, so now they make $3.54/hr instead of $3.00 for that table. Now guess what, the bus staff, host staff, and bar staff don't get tips either, so now they need 18% per check. so how many tables at one time to get 18% from each to make a decent wage?

Your food cost will skyrocket, and still these folks won't make much money.
Sorry, but none of that is my problem. Which is why the tipping system fails. Because the restaurant tries to make it the consumer's problem.

It's all unnecessary. It doesn't have to be that complicated. And no, food cost wouldn't skyrocket. It would certainly go up, but it wouldn't skyrocket. You wouldn't need to provide much if any additional money to the system. It would simply be transferring the responsibility of that 18% from the inconsistent consumer, to the the restaurant. Consumers would still pay the 18% in terms of additional food price, but the neat bonus is that the waitstaff would be guaranteed a wage. The only thing it would remove from the situation is the portion some patrons might tip above and beyond 18%. But in the long run, that could certainly be addressed. And you could still allow patrons to tip. You would just be removing the possible inconsistency that occurs because it relies on the consumer's judgement/satisfaction/current mood/whatever else.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:05 PM   #288
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it's just how the restaurant business is. It's structured so that money from tips pays all front of house employees and the owner of the restaurant only has to pay them $2 per hour. Don't like it? then don't support this type of business.

Servers only make about 2/3 of the tips they do get too. The money starts with the Servers and filters down to the bus boys.

Depending on the restaurant and the tip out policies, some restaurants make you tip out the bar based on 3% of sales and expo's and bus boys get 2% of sales. Or more at some places and some places don't pay hosts either and they are compensated by the servers too.

So if a server makes $200 in tips on $1000 in sales.

3% to bar = $30
2% to expos = $20
2% to bussers = $20

then the server goes home with $130.

It depends on the company though, the tip out structures might be a little more or less at other places but that's about the norm.
Remember when I called out bump for not being a restaurant worker earlier even though he claimed he was management?

Yeah...I was right.

NOBODY TIPS OUT 7% OF THEIR SALES AT ANY RESTAURANT.

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Old 01-30-2013, 05:07 PM   #289
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7% is the norm!??! When flop said 3.5% I was like damn...that's .5% higher than I've seen...2-3% is the norm...7% exists nowhere you ****ing liar.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:08 PM   #290
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Would servers really want to not go by the tipping system? Seems like they might make a lot more than their minimum wage and educational level counterparts.

I really don't know though as that is not an area I have any experience in, either directly or indirectly.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:14 PM   #291
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Waiters are bitches who can't do math. I worked at Dave and Busters when I was 25 60 hours a week for an entire year while writing down what I made every shift, plus counting bar wage, event gratuity, vacation and overtime and I made over $60,000 pre tax and only paid taxes on $38,000 (sorry Rain Man) since I only claimed credit card tips. I worked my ass off and worked every Saturday from 1030 AM to 3 AM with no break BY DESIGN because I would make between $300-$500 no matter what.

Could I have done that for 10 years? No. I was in great shape and don't smoke (the #1 problem in the industry) and have a strong desire to work hard and make money...

But I worked more hours than anyone on staff and made more money than anyone but two managers and everyone knew that.

Any waiter that bitches about "making ends meet" isn't working hard enough.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:15 PM   #292
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Oh, God.

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Old 01-30-2013, 05:17 PM   #293
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Only because the "you don't know what we go through" service industry people piss me off...

And if I owned a restaurant I wouldn't hire smokers and anyone I caught smoking on the clock would be fired on the spot.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:18 PM   #294
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Running around for hours at a time while dealing with assholes probably isn't as easy as you make it out to be.
As a former waiter, cook and manager, I agree with him, it is as easy as he makes it out to be. Everything he has stated is true. I see you didn't state your restaurant experience, to back up your opinion, as more accurate than his.

Waiters/waitresses, during the busy hours, have others(bussers), cleaning their tables for them, and expeditors organizing(putting the order together) for them.

During my time as a manager, they had no problem getting me involved with the assholes.

It's very easy.
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I'd be busting my ass making money for myself running food for incompetent staff members who'd then ask me to watch their tables so they can have a smoke...

Scumbags.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:22 PM   #297
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Why is it that this attitude is reserved for wait staff? I've never really understood that. Do you go into a book store, and feel obligated to be extra nice to the lady behind the counter because she might be a debt-riddled college student? How about a gas station attendant? Do you ever feel obligated to give them a tip because they might be financially insecure? You could make a difference in that gas station attendant's life too. How about those grocery clerks that might be trying to feed their kids? Bank tellers? Construction workers?

Those jobs are all filled by single mothers and college students too. Why don't we make any effort to make a financial difference in their lives?

Restaurants could easily find a better way to ensure that their employees receive consistent income. But instead, we're given a sob story about how poorly waitstaff has it, and why we should tip better.
Aside from what has been mentioned above, the places you mention require smaller staffs to operate allowing them to pay minimum wage or better. A restaurant, in order to serve 300 people on a good day, requires a staff of about some where around 40 people. Waitstaff, usually the largest make up around 60% of that or so, with bartenders, cooks, bussboys, dishwashers and management. If you paid everyone minimum wage or more, factor in food costs, supplies, utilities, your profits would be minimal at best. Now they could bump everyone up, but then the restaurant will make it up by charging the patron. So you now instead of a 20$ bill at Applebees for lunch plus 4$ tip, you are paying 40$. That's the restaurant business. Don't like to tip? Go eat at places that don't employ waitstaff. Or you could just go to Applebees/Chili's /TGIF, pay 20$ +4$tip, have a decent meal, and also have the satisfaction of knowing that you may have helped someone.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:23 PM   #298
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Remember when I called out bump for not being a restaurant worker earlier even though he claimed he was management?

Yeah...I was right.

NOBODY TIPS OUT 7% OF THEIR SALES AT ANY RESTAURANT.

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lol, yes they do.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:24 PM   #299
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lol, yes they do.
No they don't. Name the restaurant liar.
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Bump, just run for cover, bro. Hootie's got you in his sights.

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