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Old 01-30-2013, 02:51 PM  
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49ers cornerback: No gays allowed

49ers cornerback: No gays allowed
January 30, 2013By Dave K
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The most inflammatory remarks prior to the Super Bowl come from the mouth of one of the most least likely of candidates. Raise your hand if you need to look up the name Chris Culliver? The 2nd year corner made shocking remarks in regards to homosexuality in the NFL when he spoke with comedian Artie Lange during media day for the Big Game.

Lange asked Culliver about the possiblity of gay player being a teammate, and Culliver gave a very honest, yet sure to be criticized response:

“I don’t do the gay guys man,” said Culliver, whose Niners play the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday. “I don’t do that. No, we don’t got no gay people on the team, they gotta get up out of here if they do.

“Can’t be with that sweet stuff. Nah…can’t be…in the locker room man. Nah.”

When quizzed by Lange whether any homosexual athletes would need to keep their sexuality a secret in football, Culliver responded: “Yeah, come out 10 years later after that.”

It’s extremely shocking that Culliver would say what he said with the spotlight so bright at this point. His comments just come a day after it was revealed that former San Francisco 49er Kwame Harris is gay. Harris was outed in a police report after a domestic dispute with his boyfriend. Culliver is sure to be questioned by the media as they continue to make their rounds, and it will be interesting to see if he retracts his comments or goes the old “out of context” route. For what it is worth, Culliver also sent out a pretty obnoxious tweet about females on Wednesday

Boy I wake up to a mean txt females in general just be — well let me just say they be on there PERIOD!! #1 love is mom dudes!!! Period

— Chris culliver (@Cullyinthehouse) January 30, 2013


But the question is, how much of what Culliver said is true? Do most straight males in an NFL locker room feel the same way? It’s likely that a majority do, but just won’t express the sentiment. That’s just the reality. But that doesn’t excuse the back up corner for his ridiculous and ignorant comments.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:18 PM   #46
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You posted my own thoughts, so I'll just quote your post and nod my head in agreement. Hate the views, but respect the honesty.
I don't "respect the honesty" at all. Sure, I don't think he should be persecuted, and I'm not particularly shocked by his statements, but he's still a bigot. Being a loudmouthed bigot doesn't garner any extra respect.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:23 PM   #47
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I don't "respect the honesty" at all. Sure, I don't think he should be persecuted, and I'm not particularly shocked by his statements, but he's still a bigot. Being a loudmouthed bigot doesn't garner any extra respect.
And everyone who calls people a bigot for saying that kind of thing is a hypocrite because they too in turn, disagree vehemently with the ideology in which someone lives their life.

I personally hate the whole "tolerance" bullshit when this topic comes up. And I don't give a crap about gay people. What you do in the privacy of your bedroom, so long as it's between consenting adults, is your business and you're welcome to it. But if someone doesn't like gays it doesn't make them a bigot anymore than a guy who doesn't like tall chics or chics with flat asses.

Not everyone has to be tolerant of everything, and it should also be just fine for someone to disagree with someone else's lifestyle choice and say they don't like it, and people be ok with them saying that. THAT is real tolerance.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:23 PM   #48
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:27 PM   #49
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Good for him. Someone needs to stand up to the queers.

Think about it - gay dudes get to shower with other dudes they think are hot. Why can't us straight guys shower in the women's locker room?

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Old 01-30-2013, 05:30 PM   #50
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And everyone who calls people a bigot for saying that kind of thing is a hypocrite because they too in turn, disagree vehemently with the ideology in which someone lives their life.

I personally hate the whole "tolerance" bullshit when this topic comes up. And I don't give a crap about gay people. What you do in the privacy of your bedroom, so long as it's between consenting adults, is your business and you're welcome to it. But if someone doesn't like gays it doesn't make them a bigot anymore than a guy who doesn't like tall chics or chics with flat asses.

Not everyone has to be tolerant of everything, and it should also be just fine for someone to disagree with someone else's lifestyle choice and say they don't like it, and people be ok with them saying that. THAT is real tolerance.
People who want someone removed from their place of employment for being gay are bigots. It has nothing to do with "disagreeing vehemently with the ideology in which someone lives their life." That is an absurd definition. Here's an actual one:

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Old 01-30-2013, 05:32 PM   #51
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People who want someone removed from their place of employment for being gay are bigots. It has nothing to do with "disagreeing vehemently with the ideology in which someone lives their life." That is an absurd definition. Here's an actual one:
So is one that treats religious people with intolerance, as we often see on this board (I am not religious), also a bigot?
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Let me state again, I don't give a shit about gay people or their life. I also find the idiots that come to their rescue to be the biggest pains in the asses.

You're offended! WOW! Be offended then. JFC the nation of intellectual pussies we have running around now, always being offended by something....
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So is one that treats religious people with intolerance, as we often see on this board (I am not religious), also a bigot?
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:34 PM   #54
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So is one that treats religious people with intolerance, as we often see on this board (I am not religious), also a bigot?
Abso-****ing-lutely.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:35 PM   #55
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Let me state again, I don't give a shit about gay people or their life. I also find the idiots that come to their rescue to be the biggest pains in the asses.

You're offended! WOW! Be offended then. JFC the nation of intellectual pussies we have running around now, always being offended by something....
I'm not onboard for a national beatdown of the guy. I imagine his sentiments are fairly common on a typical NFL roster. That doesn't mean I applaud his honesty. His words didn't upset me, but they did show he's not only a bigot, but one with very little common sense.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:38 PM   #56
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I guess I don't see people as bigots for disliking something.

I don't like a lot of things, but that doesn't make me a bigot. It's called a preference or opinion.

If a guy doesn't want gays on his team, it means his preference is not to have gays on his team. Eventually, society straightens this shit out, but in the meantime people get their thong in a knot too severely about I think.

People hate on religious people FAR MORE than gays, and aren't lambasted for it nearly as much.
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I guess I don't see people as bigots for disliking something.

I don't like a lot of things, but that doesn't make me a bigot. It's called a preference or opinion.

If a guy doesn't want gays on his team, it means his preference is not to have gays on his team. Eventually, society straightens this shit out, but in the meantime people get their thong in a knot too severely about I think.

People hate on religious people FAR MORE than gays, and aren't lambasted for it nearly as much.
Being gay is a part of who someone is. If he privately believes it is wrong, that's one thing. If he helps to create an uncomfortable work environment for any gay members of the 49ers by shooting off at the mouth, that's behavior, not just an opinion. The entire culture of professional sports wherein men have to lie about who they are just to get by until years after their retirement is pretty ****ed up and just taking comments like this in stride is one way that culture keeps going. Also:

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THIS IS HOW SOCIETY STRAIGHTENS THIS SHIT OUT. I'm not for demonizing the guy, but if his comments reopen the discussion, then maybe he'll end up doing more good than harm after all.
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