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Old 02-07-2013, 08:35 AM  
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DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunition

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
February 7, 2013

The Department of Homeland Security is set to purchase a further 21.6 million rounds of ammunition to add to the 1.6 billion bullets it has already obtained over the course of the last 10 months alone, figures which have stoked concerns that the federal agency is preparing for civil unrest.


A solicitation posted yesterday on the Fed Bid website details how the bullets are required for the DHS Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Artesia, New Mexico.

The solicitation asks for 10 million pistol cartridge .40 caliber 165 Grain, jacketed Hollow point bullets (100 quantities of 100,000 rounds) and 10 million 9mm 115 grain jacketed hollow point bullets (100 quantities of 100,000 rounds).

The document also lists a requirement for 1.6 million pistol cartridge 9mm ball bullets (40 quantities of 40,000 rounds).

An approximation of how many rounds of ammunition the DHS has now secured over the last 10 months stands at around 1.625 billion.

To put that in perspective, during the height of active battle operations in Iraq, US soldiers used 5.5 million rounds of ammunition a month. Extrapolating the figures, the DHS has purchased enough bullets over the last 10 months to wage a full scale war for almost 30 years.

Such massive quantities of ammo purchases have stoked fears that the agency is preparing for some kind of domestic unrest. In 2011, Department of Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano directed Immigration and Customs Enforcement to prepare for a mass influx of immigrants into the United States, calling for the plan to deal with the “shelter” and “processing” of large numbers of people.

The federal agency’s primary concern is now centered around thwarting “homegrown terrorism,” but information produced and used by the DHS to train its personnel routinely equates conservative political ideology with domestic extremism.

A study funded by the Department of Homeland Security that was leaked last year characterizes Americans who are “suspicious of centralized federal authority,” and “reverent of individual liberty” as “extreme right-wing” terrorists.

In August 2012, the DHS censored information relating to the amount of bullets purchased by the federal agency on behalf of Immigration & Customs Enforcement, citing an “unusual and compelling urgency” to acquire the bullets, noting that there is a shortage of bullets which is threatening a situation that could cause “substantial safety issues for the government” should law enforcement officials not be adequately armed.

As we highlighted last month, the DHS’ previous ammunition solicitation was awarded to Evian Group, an organization that was formed just five days before the announcement of the solicitation and appeared to be little more than a front organization since it didn’t have a genuine physical address, a website, or even a phone number.

While Americans are being browbeaten with rhetoric about the necessity to give up semi-automatic firearms in the name of preventing school shootings, the federal government is arming itself to the teeth with both ammunition and guns. Last September, the DHS purchased no less than 7,000 fully automatic assault rifles, labeling them “Personal Defense Weapons.”

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-purchase...of-ammunition/
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:31 PM   #16
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You can attack the source all you want. A simple google search will show you that the DHS has been stocking ammo in mass quantities.

The funny thing is, the typical left wing posters who are always mocking the source on this forum would be pitching a fit if a republican was in office and they were doing the same.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:37 PM   #17
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You can attack the source all you want. A simple google search will show you that the DHS has been stocking ammo in mass quantities.

The funny thing is, the typical left wing posters who are always mocking the source on this forum would be pitching a fit if a republican was in office and they were doing the same.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:46 PM   #18
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I don't understand the relevance of this question to the topic at hand.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:47 PM   #19
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You can attack the source all you want. A simple google search will show you that the DHS has been stocking ammo in mass quantities.

The funny thing is, the typical left wing posters who are always mocking the source on this forum would be pitching a fit if a republican was in office and they were doing the same.
Did a simple google search. Not one credible news source on the first three pages. A lot of infowars, rt.com, imacrazy****.org, etc. . . The world is scary enough without making shit up and worrying about nothing.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:50 PM   #20
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I don't understand the relevance of this question to the topic at hand.
It is the main poll question on the website that you think is worth a shit.

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Old 02-07-2013, 03:52 PM   #21
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As we highlighted last month, the DHS’ previous ammunition solicitation was awarded to Evian Group, an organization that was formed just five days before the announcement of the solicitation and appeared to be little more than a front organization since it didn’t have a genuine physical address, a website, or even a phone number.
That's suspicious.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:58 PM   #22
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:00 PM   #24
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It is the main poll question on the website that you think is worth a shit.

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Maybe that poll question relates to the article about the physicists that claim that the universe may well be a computer simulation. These aren't crackpots, but mainstream scientists. Of course I have heard this theory before as I try to keep up on science and shit, and there are quite a few scientists and physicists who are investigating that theory.

I don't buy it, but then I'm not a theoretical physicist.

Linking an article about a scientific theory, and having a poll on the site that asks for opinions about that article, does nothing to the credibility of the source. That's not to say I believe everything I read on drudge or the articles he links to either. Nor does it have a ****ing thing to do with the topic of this thread.
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:03 PM   #25
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So Dave Lame, you don't think the govt is buying up massive amounts of ammo to prepare for civil unrest?

Do you live under a rock or.....?
How many rounds has the DHS bought per year in the past? What's the average amount they use in normal training per year?

I've never seen you mention that, likely because you don't have a clue...

Yet that doesn't stop you from making claims that the evil gubment is out to get people huh?

The truth is that you and most others getting riled up about this have no clue what normal DHS ammo usage is. You're strictly seeing what you think is a large number, without any idea of what to compare it to.

Go to this page: http://www.fletc.gov/

And look in the very bottom right corner. That number is for the FLETC alone. That's just what they alone use in training per year. That doesn't include all the other departments under DHS authority. Do you know how many departments fall under DHS jurisdiction? That might be something important to note as well, since you're criticizing them.

Here's what that looks like:



The FLETC uses 20 million rounds per year itself, and it's just one member under the DHS umbrella.

You're a loony ****ing kook.
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Maybe that poll question relates to the article about the physicists that claim that the universe may well be a computer simulation. These aren't crackpots, but mainstream scientists. Of course I have heard this theory before as I try to keep up on science and shit, and there are quite a few scientists and physicists who are investigating that theory.

I don't buy it, but then I'm not a theoretical physicist.

Linking an article about a scientific theory, and having a poll on the site that asks for opinions about that article, does nothing to the credibility of the source. That's not to say I believe everything I read on drudge or the articles he links to either. Nor does it have a ****ing thing to do with the topic of this thread.
The universe that you have created in your mind is a simulation based on your perceptions, as is the one I have created in mine. I am going to go out on limb and assume that there is a real universe that exists outside of our minds but I have no way to prove it. Both and neither.
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Maybe that poll question relates to the article about the physicists that claim that the universe may well be a computer simulation. These aren't crackpots, but mainstream scientists. Of course I have heard this theory before as I try to keep up on science and shit, and there are quite a few scientists and physicists who are investigating that theory.

I don't buy it, but then I'm not a theoretical physicist.

Linking an article about a scientific theory, and having a poll on the site that asks for opinions about that article, does nothing to the credibility of the source. That's not to say I believe everything I read on drudge or the articles he links to either. Nor does it have a ****ing thing to do with the topic of this thread.
When you post bullshit from bullshit sources...as Pete often does.

This is what happens.

Go participate in filter bias somewhere else.
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When you post bullshit from bullshit sources...as Pete often does.

This is what happens.

Go participate in filter bias somewhere else.
So I totally destroy your argument that the poll on the site shows that it isn't credible, and you counter with....that's right....nothing.
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So I totally destroy your argument that the poll on the site shows that it isn't credible, and you counter with....that's right....nothing.
I didn't say the poll is what didn't make it credible. Its own reputation for being paranoid bullshit is what does not make it credible.

I was mocking the poll...and I am mocking you for believing a site such as that and defending.

Really the whole process is fun.
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I didn't say the poll is what didn't make it credible. Its own reputation for being paranoid bullshit is what does not make it credible.

I was mocking the poll...and I am mocking you for believing a site such as that and defending.

Really the whole process is fun.
You have more fun than should be allowed in DC. Mods???
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