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Old 02-06-2013, 06:54 AM  
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The U.S. Postal Service plans to announce Wednesday that it will end Saturday mail delivery, in one of the most significant steps taken to date to cut costs at the struggling agency.

A source familiar with the decision confirmed the plan to Fox News.

Under the proposal, the Postal Service will continue to deliver packages six days a week. The plan, which is aimed at saving about $2 billion, would start to take effect in August.

The move accentuates one of the agency's strong points -- package delivery has increased by 14 percent since 2010, officials say, while the delivery of letters and other mail has declined with the increasing use of email and other Internet use.

Under the new plan, mail would still be delivered to post office boxes on Saturdays. Post offices now open on Saturdays would remain open on Saturdays.

Over the past several years, the Postal Service has advocated shifting to a five-day delivery schedule for mail and packages -- and it repeatedly but unsuccessfully appealed to Congress to approve the move. Though an independent agency, the service gets no tax dollars for its day-to-day operations but is subject to congressional control.

It was not immediately clear how the service could eliminate Saturday mail without congressional approval.

But the agency clearly thinks it has a majority of the American public on its side regarding the change.

Material prepared for the Wednesday press conference by Patrick R. Donahoe, postmaster general and CEO, says Postal Service market research and other research has indicated that nearly 7 in 10 Americans support the switch to five-day delivery as a way for the Postal Service to reduce costs
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:56 PM   #106
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Privatize it. Alot of the 50K that lose their jobs could be hired back by the private company.


I dont believe in this thinking of "Whatever is in government, should forever be"
And people will be paying out the wazoo. You think people bitch a lot for paying 46 sents to send something? Just wait.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:01 PM   #107
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Congress responds against ending Saturday delivery: Members of both houses of Congress have gone on record to say that they consider the Postal Service's plan to go to 5-day delivery to be counterproductive and legally suspect. You can read their responses here.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:10 PM   #108
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Have you read it?
No, that's why I'm talking in terms of skepticism and whether or not I'd buy it. If I'd have read it, I'd draw a stronger conclusion.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:11 PM   #109
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No, that's why I'm talking in terms of skepticism and whether or not I'd buy it. If I'd have read it, I'd draw a stronger conclusion.
I'll see if I can find a copy for you.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:13 PM   #110
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What if you worked for the post office? Oh, you don't, so it's not a problem.
Again, you're making an emotional argument about jobs, not a sensible argument about whether the jobs are useful or not.

If the government created 100 jobs with a make-work program moving a pile of rocks from one side of a field to the other and then back again, over and over and over, would you fight against eliminating that useless program because jobs were at stake?
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Again, you're making an emotional argument about jobs, not a sensible argument about whether the jobs are useful or not.

If the government created 100 jobs with a make-work program moving a pile of rocks from one side of a field to the other and then back again, over and over and over, would you fight against eliminating that useless program because jobs were at stake?
You're making the argument that the post office is obsolete. It's not.
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You're making the argument that the post office is obsolete. It's not.
No, I'm not making that argument. I'm criticizing your argument because it has zero persuasive weight. The only reason you've offered for keeping Saturday delivery is that to end it would cost jobs. If Saturday delivery isn't obsolete, there must be a reason for it other than jobs. If it is obsolete, the jobs need to go.
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:33 PM   #113
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Congress responds against ending Saturday delivery: Members of both houses of Congress have gone on record to say that they consider the Postal Service's plan to go to 5-day delivery to be counterproductive and legally suspect. You can read their responses here.
Of course congress hates it. They are a bunch of old white guys with no forward thinking ability.
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:38 PM   #114
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Privatize it. Alot of the 50K that lose their jobs could be hired back by the private company.


I dont believe in this thinking of "Whatever is in government, should forever be"
You can't privatize the postal service. It would be massively unprofitable.

And again... people should stop using the argument that if it doesn't work in the private sector, it shouldn't be used at all. Again, the Postal Service helps out the private sector a lot. The postal service still has a ton of value. The problem is fixing the cost structure. I think gutting Saturdays is a great start.
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:09 PM   #115
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The problem is fixing the cost structure. I think gutting Saturdays is a great start.
Well yea, this and the union demands.....we won't even get into that.
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Old 03-21-2013, 03:34 PM   #116
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...92K0OL20130321

Congress to force Postal Service to keep Saturday delivery

By Elvina Nawaguna
WASHINGTON | Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:16pm EDT
(Reuters) - Congress foiled the financially beleaguered U.S. Postal Service's plan to end Saturday delivery of first-class mail on Thursday when it passed legislation requiring six-day delivery.

The Postal Service, which lost $16 billion last year, had said last month it wanted to switch to five-day mail service to save $2 billion annually.

No law requires the Postal Service to deliver mail six days a week, but Congress traditionally has included a provision in legislation to fund the federal government each year that has prevented the Postal Service from reducing delivery service.

The Postal Service had asked Congress not to include the provision this time around.

Despite the request, the House of Representatives on Thursday gave final approval to the legislation that maintains the provision, sending it to President Barack Obama to sign into law. The Senate approved the measure on Wednesday.

But some lawmakers who support the Postal Service's plan have said there may still be some room for it to change its delivery schedule. They point out that the language requiring six-day delivery is vague and does not prohibit altering what products it delivers on Saturdays.

The Postal Service has said that while it would not pick up or deliver first-class mail, magazines and direct mail, it would continue to deliver packages and pharmaceutical drugs on Saturdays.

Republican Senator Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and Representative Darrell Issa of California on Thursday jointly told the USPS Board of Governors to move forward with implementing the five-day delivery plan for mail.

"The Board of Governors has a fiduciary responsibility to utilize its legal authority to implement modified 6-day mail delivery as recently proposed," the lawmakers said in their letter to the USPS board.

The Postal Service, they said, is in such dire financial need that it must implement all measures to fix its troubles.

LEGALITY IN QUESTION

Several polls have shown a majority of the public supports ending six-day delivery of first-class mail.

The plan for a new delivery schedule, Postal Service spokesman David Partenheimer said, would respond to the customers' changing needs and help keep the Postal Service from becoming a burden to taxpayers.

Last week, Coburn introduced an amendment to the spending bill to strike down the requirement for six-day mail delivery and give the mail carrier more control over its operations. That amendment failed.

A number of lawmakers and trade groups said the plan to cut Saturday mail service is illegal because the Postal Service requires Congress' approval before it makes such a decision.

Democratic Representative Gerald Connolly of Virginia said in a letter to the Government Accountability Office on Thursday that the Postal Service is still bound by the six-day requirement.

"Unfortunately, the Postmaster General continues to stonewall members of Congress, withholding his legal justifications for eliminating Saturday delivery from postal customers and the American public," Connolly said.

The Postal Service, an independent agency not funded by taxpayers, has said it could need a taxpayer bailout of more than $47 billion by 2017 if Congress does not give it flexibility to change its business model.

It had planned to drop Saturday first-class mail delivery in August.

Ending six-day first-class mail delivery is part of the Postal Service's larger plan to cut costs and raise revenues.

The mail carrier loses $25 million each day, as more Americans communicate by email and the Internet, and as heavy mandatory payments into its future retirees' health fund take a toll.

The Postal Service could run out of money by October if Congress does not provide legislative relief, some experts have estimated.

"Once the delivery schedule language ... becomes law, we will discuss it with our Board of Governors to determine our next steps," Partenheimer said.

(Reporting by Elvina Nawaguna; Editing by Karey Van Hall and Doina Chiacu)
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Old 03-21-2013, 03:57 PM   #117
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Just one more of many examples why congress is a ****ing joke. These guys just love to piss away money.
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this is a good example how our gov't is artificially inflating the dollar. americans think a mailed letter costs them a mere forty - five cents. heh.

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Congress to force Postal Service to keep Saturday delivery
WTF is wrong with the government?
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