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Old 02-07-2013, 08:16 AM  
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Former LAPD officer on rampage in So Cal

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(CNN) -- A former Los Angeles police officer who police say has violently threatened his former colleagues shot at least two officers early Thursday, killing one, sparking a huge manhunt in Southern California, according to authorities.
Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, is also wanted in a double slaying Sunday in Irvine, California.
The California Highway Patrol issued an alert Thursday morning urging officers in several Southern California counties to be on the lookout for Dorner after the overnight shootings.
Two officers in Riverside were shot, one fatally, police there confirmed to CNN. CNN affiliate KTLA reported another officer was shot in Corona, California.
Irvine police identified Dorner on Wednesday as the suspect in the February 3 deaths of Keith Lawrence and Monica Quan in Irvine.
Dorner also has made violent threats against other Los Angeles police officers, the agency said Wednesday.
"I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty," Dorner allegedly wrote in a lengthy letter promising retribution against the department, where he worked from 2005 until 2008. An LAPD source provided the document to CNN.
The letter writer claimed he was terminated for reporting excessive force by a fellow officer, and said his attacks were retribution for his termination, as well as a culture of racism and violence he says continues within the department.
He called the attacks against police "a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name."
Los Angeles police warned people who encounter Dorner not to approach him, saying he is likely "armed and extremely dangerous."
"Our department is implementing all measures possible to ensure the safety of our LAPD personnel, their families and the Los Angeles community, and will continue to do so until Dorner is apprehended and all threats have been abated," police said in a statement.
CNN's Mallory Simon and Deanna Hackney contributed to this report.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:21 AM   #346
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He's not really what you probably think of when you hear "sniper." He's actually much more dangerous than that.
I'm not sure how he's "much more dangerous" than a sniper?
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:22 AM   #347
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Did they bring it back again?
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:23 AM   #348
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I heard they are just for this purpose
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:24 AM   #349
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There are enough nut jobs out there that will help him out.
Cops are shooting up old ladies because they're driving a truck. This guy may be the sanest person in the equation.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:24 AM   #350
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If he was, he'd have never missed the first officers he shot at.

NewChief is right - we have a guy that was probably wronged, but who ultimately also has a hell of a persecution complex and delusions of grandeur. And yeah, I bet he was a bit of a militant prick that was no fun to work with. I'm sorry, Tiger - you may be good, but you ain't that good. You're not going to just get the LAPD to scrap their playbook because you've read it before. Even a shitty plan is going to work with large numbers and technology on their side.

Even if he does have a .50 cal, he's not going to shoulder-mount the thing and take on the National Guard. And seeing as how the only person he's actually managed to kill during this rampage was a woman and her boyfriend and not any of the armed, trained officers he's targeted, well something tells me the guy isn't nearly as good as he thinks he is.

He'd have been smarter to just steal another boat and tool down to Mexico.
Agreed, were he a sniper pretty much everyone he aimed at would be gone, particularly the two officers just across the intersection from him.

I bet they find him dead of a self-inflicted pretty soon.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:24 AM   #351
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I'm not sure how he's "much more dangerous" than a sniper?
He's more mobile, more knowledgeable, and better armed than a typical sniper.
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I heard they are just for this purpose

He's a dead man.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:25 AM   #353
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Agreed, were he a sniper pretty much everyone he aimed at would be gone, particularly the two officers just across the intersection from him.

I bet they find him dead of a self-inflicted pretty soon.
That's kinda my thinking.

He's been too quiet for too long. I'm guessing they find him leaning up against a tree with half a dome here in the near future.
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.The truth is that if he doesn't want to be found...he won't be. The real danger is that (according to his manifesto) he's not hiding and trying to get away, he's maintaining a tactical position while inflicting the highest possible casualty rate.
This.

He's got the best training in the world and he could hide under a refrigerator box with mud on his face and not even be noticed in an alley with his head down.

Him going all "Rambo" and taking to the woods sounds like BS to me...
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He's not a good guy. But he's in a unique position to shine light on the hypocrisy of the media and the corruption in the police force.
Just stop. Your first sentence was fine. When you follow it with "But ...", you are excusing him.

He's a ****ing mass-murdering psychopath. There's no justification for his actions. None. There's no reason to feel one iota of sympathy for him. It doesn't matter if he feels like somebody wronged him: there's no excuse for him to be a ****ing mass-murdering psychopath, and anyone who roots for him in any way is a ****ing idiot.

I hope somebody shoots his dick off and he bleeds to death as slowly as painfully as possible.
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He's more mobile, more knowledgeable, and better armed than a typical sniper.
This will drive a buddy of mine batshit insane. He's former active army (now a reserves Captain in Texas; his boys were actually doing the run/gun training in Houston that got everyone all pissed off). It drives him nuts to hear people talk about 'snipers' as though its the only thing they do.

'Sniper' isn't really a role; it's a qualification given to the highest of the high speed. In essence, you take a SEAL (or some other high-end unit, depending on the branch) that was already qualified in all that stuff, you see that he is a crack shot, then you send him out to a long-distance range every day until he can shoot flees off a dogs ass.

A 'Sniper' is going to have all the training you're discussing. That guy was trained to do all of that stuff well before he was given a big !@#$ing rifle and told to lay still for awhile. And if they took his big !@#$ing rifle away, he'd be more than capable of gutting you with a rock while surviving off his own piss.
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Just stop. Your first sentence was fine. When you follow it with "But ...", you are excusing him.

He's a ****ing mass-murdering psychopath. There's no justification for his actions. None. There's no reason to feel one iota of sympathy for him. It doesn't matter if he feels like somebody wronged him: there's no excuse for him to be a ****ing mass-murdering psychopath, and anyone who roots for him in any way is a ****ing idiot.

I hope somebody shoots his dick off and he bleeds to death as slowly as painfully as possible.
He's a domestic terrorist.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:33 AM   #358
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His job on his last deployment was to protect a fixed asset. He's not really what you probably think of when you hear "sniper." He's actually much more dangerous than that. He's been trained in a variety of skills including wilderness/urban survival, knowledge of high and low tech weaponry, tactics and strategy, military history and police procedure. The mention of his marksmanship rank is a ploy by the media to interject as much drama into this story as they can, what it really means is that he is proficient with his firearms. The truth is that if he doesn't want to be found...he won't be. The real danger is that (according to his manifesto) he's not hiding and trying to get away, he's maintaining a tactical position while inflicting the highest possible casualty rate. You should feel happy that he's not coming for you. I know that I wouldn't want to go after him. I seriously doubt that our military forces want to either. But they might have to eventually.


You act like this guy is Rambo or Jason Bourne.
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You act like this guy is Rambo or Jason Bourne.
Rambo is a very good comparison...
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This will drive a buddy of mine batshit insane. He's former active army (now a reserves Captain in Texas; his boys were actually doing the run/gun training in Houston that got everyone all pissed off). It drives him nuts to hear people talk about 'snipers' as though its the only thing they do.

'Sniper' isn't really a role; it's a qualification given to the highest of the high speed. In essence, you take a SEAL (or some other high-end unit, depending on the branch) that was already qualified in all that stuff, you see that he is a crack shot, then you send him out to a long-distance range every day until he can shoot flees off a dogs ass.

A 'Sniper' is going to have all the training you're discussing. That guy was trained to do all of that stuff well before he was given a big !@#$ing rifle and told to lay still for awhile. And if they took his big !@#$ing rifle away, he'd be more than capable of gutting you with a rock while surviving off his own piss.
Exactly. I'm not trying to act like snipers are super soldiers, but they're far more dangerous than the average enlisted person (which, when all is said and done, this guy appears to be). Of course, he does have his years on the police force that gives him some knowledge, but I don't think his skill set is particularly daunting.
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