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Old 02-08-2013, 09:43 AM  
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Andy Reid on Metro Sports...



I linked this in the other thread from the Star article, but was unable to embed it last night. Thought it might deserve its own thread, especially since we're starving for Chiefs stuff right now. Good interview, and interesting stuff on the QB position...
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:35 PM   #16
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You're looking for reasons to NOT believe just as much as people who are looking for reasons to believe.
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Reid saying that they might stay or might not stay where they are means nothing. It's just coach speak that we here from every coach/GM every year.
Uh, no.

Coaches with the top pick in the draft that NEED a QB don't play games.

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His description of what he wants in a QB doesn't necessarily mean Geno, but it does imply that these "leftover" QB's isn't what Reid is after. Imo, his description of what he's after in a QB is more telling than "i might or might not move back"
You're misinterpreting his words.

That is NOT what he said, at all. He said that footwork, throwing, etc. don't mean much to him. What DOES matter is that the QB elevates the play of those around him.

Again, he also said very clearly that he'll do what's best for the Chiefs, whether that's staying at #1 or moving back.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:57 PM   #17
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"Whether we stay there OR trade back".

That certainly doesn't scream "QB #1 overall".
It doesn't scream anything.
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:35 PM   #18
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It doesn't scream anything.
Exactly.
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:39 PM   #19
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That is NOT what he said, at all. He said that footwork, throwing, etc. don't mean much to him. What DOES matter is that the QB elevates the play of those around him.

Again, he also said very clearly that he'll do what's best for the Chiefs, whether that's staying at #1 or moving back.
Bold is not accurate. He was alluding to all of the particulars that add up to making a QB effective. But he was giving an otherwise reductive answer that he wants a QB to win games and elevate the play of others.

He was being purposefully pointed because he noted that he was going to (paraphrasing) "make this quick."
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:40 PM   #20
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Did Geno win a lot of games? ... Stanzi did
Stanzi made Gabbert look like Joe Montana in comparison in the Insight Bowl. He was awful.
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Old 02-08-2013, 03:07 PM   #21
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Bold is not accurate. He was alluding to all of the particulars that add up to making a QB effective. But he was giving an otherwise reductive answer that he wants a QB to win games and elevate the play of others.

He was being purposefully pointed because he noted that he was going to (paraphrasing) "make this quick."
Here's exactly what he said:

The skill that is most important is that he wins football games.

The great ones makes everyone around them better. They make everyone's game come up.

Look, I'm making it short and sweet for you. We're not talking about the intangibles that go into it, we're not talking about the reads on time, we're not talking about the footwork, the arm strength, the hands, all those things.

The bottom line is that guy doesn't have to the prettiest, but does he give you an opportunity to win football games and does he allow his players around him to raise their game up and go do that.

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Old 02-08-2013, 03:40 PM   #22
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Here's exactly what he said:

The skill that is most important is that he wins football games.

The great ones makes everyone around them better. They make everyone's game come up.

Look, I'm making it short and sweet for you. We're not talking about the intangibles that go into it, we're not talking about the reads on time, we're not talking about the footwork, the arm strength, the hands, all those things.

The bottom line is that guy doesn't have to the prettiest, but does he give you an opportunity to win football games and does he allow his players around him to raise their game up and go do that.

He's not discounting the importance of footwork, etc., at all, IMO. He's simply "making it short and sweet" in his response.

There are obviously a hell of a lot of specific details that allow a QB to win games and elevate the play of others.
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Old 02-08-2013, 03:48 PM   #23
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Here's exactly what he said:

The skill that is most important is that he wins football games.

The great ones makes everyone around them better. They make everyone's game come up.

Look, I'm making it short and sweet for you. We're not talking about the intangibles that go into it, we're not talking about the reads on time, we're not talking about the footwork, the arm strength, the hands, all those things.

The bottom line is that guy doesn't have to the prettiest, but does he give you an opportunity to win football games and does he allow his players around him to raise their game up and go do that.

Sounds like Geno Smith to me.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:22 PM   #24
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Andy Reid loves to move around in drafts, so I wouldn't completely rule out trading down for you guys. If you look at Reid's history in early rounds of drafts, he loves to move up and down.

Draft days are going to be exciting for you guys. If anyone here is a person who just tunes in around the approximate time the Chiefs are supposed to pick, that isn't going to work with Reid. You have to watch the whole draft, because he's always itching to make a move.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:33 PM   #25
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Bullshit



Uh, no.

Coaches with the top pick in the draft that NEED a QB don't play games.



You're misinterpreting his words.

That is NOT what he said, at all. He said that footwork, throwing, etc. don't mean much to him. What DOES matter is that the QB elevates the play of those around him.

Again, he also said very clearly that he'll do what's best for the Chiefs, whether that's staying at #1 or moving back.
1st, no it's not BS. You've been entertaining the idea that the Chiefs may not draft a QB in the 1st since Reid has been hired. You've said so yourself.

2nd, coaches don't give coach speak on who they'll draft? Especially this early? Yes, they do **** around plenty. Especially in February. The fact that he stated, "hey i might stay, i might move down" means nothing in February. Nothing.

3rd, im not sure what you're arguing here. I stated that he isn't describing Alex Smith or Matt Flynn at all. Do you believe Alex Smith a is QB who elevates the play of those around him? Once again, from his description, he's not talking about any of the QB's n this F/A class.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:34 PM   #26
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He's not discounting the importance of footwork, etc., at all, IMO. He's simply "making it short and sweet" in his response.

There are obviously a hell of a lot of specific details that allow a QB to win games and elevate the play of others.
I took his entire response to mean that the "prettiest girl in the room" isn't necessarily what he looks for when evaluating quarterbacks.

Now, that could mean any number of things but it seems like he won't shy away from a guy with warts, as long as he's a winner and leader of men.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:36 PM   #27
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I took his entire response to mean that the "prettiest girl in the room" isn't necessarily what he looks for when evaluating quarterbacks.

Now, that could mean any number of things but it seems like he won't shy away from a guy with warts, as long as he's a winner and leader of men.
Right, now does that describe the F/A Qb class?
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:47 PM   #28
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Right, now does that describe the F/A Qb class?
Who said anything about free agency? Not me. Not Dave Stewart. Not Andy Reid.

Who?
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