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Old 02-07-2013, 08:16 AM  
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Former LAPD officer on rampage in So Cal

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(CNN) -- A former Los Angeles police officer who police say has violently threatened his former colleagues shot at least two officers early Thursday, killing one, sparking a huge manhunt in Southern California, according to authorities.
Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, is also wanted in a double slaying Sunday in Irvine, California.
The California Highway Patrol issued an alert Thursday morning urging officers in several Southern California counties to be on the lookout for Dorner after the overnight shootings.
Two officers in Riverside were shot, one fatally, police there confirmed to CNN. CNN affiliate KTLA reported another officer was shot in Corona, California.
Irvine police identified Dorner on Wednesday as the suspect in the February 3 deaths of Keith Lawrence and Monica Quan in Irvine.
Dorner also has made violent threats against other Los Angeles police officers, the agency said Wednesday.
"I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty," Dorner allegedly wrote in a lengthy letter promising retribution against the department, where he worked from 2005 until 2008. An LAPD source provided the document to CNN.
The letter writer claimed he was terminated for reporting excessive force by a fellow officer, and said his attacks were retribution for his termination, as well as a culture of racism and violence he says continues within the department.
He called the attacks against police "a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name."
Los Angeles police warned people who encounter Dorner not to approach him, saying he is likely "armed and extremely dangerous."
"Our department is implementing all measures possible to ensure the safety of our LAPD personnel, their families and the Los Angeles community, and will continue to do so until Dorner is apprehended and all threats have been abated," police said in a statement.
CNN's Mallory Simon and Deanna Hackney contributed to this report.
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:38 PM   #631
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See, and this is what's annoying. You are implying that my reasoning is the same as his.

I am saying his intentions are to clear his name, as he stated in his manifesto, not that his intentions are justified. How is it that hard to differentiate the two?

In a way you are right, thinking that the Liberals are ever going to get their way when it comes to guns is absurd and arguing with them about it is playing to what they want and that is to keep it in the headlines, sorta like when they trotted those kids out at the Superbowl as human props to promote their agenda.
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:40 PM   #632
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You were right.
This sarcasm?...
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:43 PM   #633
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Nope. The last 2+ pages are about gun control, as you predicted.
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:44 PM   #634
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You misinterpreted my entire post. Maybe I wasn't clear enough, but nothing contained in that post said I wanted to reason with the suspect. I am talking about motive when I say his reason.

The "ability to reason" part was directed at the poster, r8ers.

Holy **** I am arguing with idiots.

I'm out.
Good lord you are stupid. Let me explain. You want to tell ME the main point and reasoning of a violent man who is out killing people based on a rambling manifesto he wrote. So in fact, you are the one who is trying to reason with a psycho. That is, you are the one who is trying to understand why he is doing what he is doing. You are, after all, telling me you know more about the "suspect" and his "motive" based on a lengthy manifesto that says a lot of different things.

I'm telling you that this suspect has MOTIVES, as in plural. As in more than one. And due to his rather high view of himself, it's really presumptuous of YOU to tell ME what is the MAIN GOAL of this guy's rampage. I'm saying he has, and follow me on this because it's a big word, an AGENDA.

You do need a time out. You need a time out to figure out what you are talking about becuase I don't think you even realize just how idiotic you look.

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Old 02-09-2013, 01:44 PM   #635
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Nope. The last 2+ pages are about gun control, as you predicted.
Thought you were out? I mean more than usual of course.
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:51 PM   #636
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Good lord you are stupid. Let me explain. You want to tell ME the main point and reasoning of a violent man who is out killing people based on a rambling manifesto he wrote. So in fact, you are the one who is trying to reason with a psycho. That is, you are the one who is trying to understand why he is doing what he is doing. You are, after all, telling me you know more about the "suspect" and his "motive" based on a lengthy manifesto that says a lot of different things.

I'm telling you that this suspect has MOTIVES, as in plural. As in more than one. And due to his rather high view of himself, it's really presumptuous of YOU to tell ME what is the MAIN GOAL of this guy's rampage. I'm saying he has, and follow me on this because it's a big word, an AGENDA.

You do need a time out. You need a time out to figure out what you are talking about becuase I don't think you even realize just how idiotic you look.

This would make sense if the sole thing he actually stated clearly in his manifesto wasn't:

"The question [singular, not plural] is, what would you do to clear your name?"

...at the beginning of the ****ing thing. That's his primary objective. Everything else is conjecture.

I am not trying to "reason with a psycho", I am simply going off the clearly stated premise at the beginning of his manifesto.

Everything else is noise that can be construed to fit an agenda.

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Old 02-09-2013, 01:52 PM   #637
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:56 PM   #638
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Good lord you are stupid. Let me explain. You want to tell ME the main point and reasoning of a violent man who is out killing people based on a rambling manifesto he wrote. So in fact, you are the one who is trying to reason with a psycho. That is, you are the one who is trying to understand why he is doing what he is doing. You are, after all, telling me you know more about the "suspect" and his "motive" based on a lengthy manifesto that says a lot of different things.

I'm telling you that this suspect has MOTIVES, as in plural. As in more than one. And due to his rather high view of himself, it's really presumptuous of YOU to tell ME what is the MAIN GOAL of this guy's rampage. I'm saying he has, and follow me on this because it's a big word, an AGENDA.

You do need a time out. You need a time out to figure out what you are talking about becuase I don't think you even realize just how idiotic you look.

Look, you're angry. You feel betrayed. The Broncos played not to lose and that's exactly what beat them. We get it.

Lighten up. Get a massage or something.
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Nope. The last 2+ pages are about gun control, as you predicted.
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Look, you're angry. You feel betrayed. The Broncos played not to lose and that's exactly what beat them. We get it.

Lighten up. Get a massage or something.
lol, fair enough. My point is that a lengthy manifesto usually means that whoever wrote it has many issues he/she wants to address. It's generally an indication of an agenda. If this guy wants everyone to understand him, going on a killing rampage is not the way to do it. His manifesto is simply a precurser to an agenda which he will try to enact however possible. Be it revenge against the LAPD and social change on a larger scale.

All I'm saying is this will be another arrow in the quiver of the gun control people in DC. I've tied it into the fact that it's irony of irony that the majority of these shooters who have used guns to kill people are Democrats or lean to the leftist agenda. I'm just pointing this stuff out.
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lol, fair enough. My point is that a lengthy manifesto usually means that whoever wrote it has many issues he/she wants to address. It's generally an indication of an agenda. If this guy wants everyone to understand him, going on a killing rampage is not the way to do it. His manifesto is simply a precurser to an agenda which he will try to enact however possible. Be it revenge against the LAPD and social change on a larger scale.

All I'm saying is this will be another arrow in the quiver of the gun control people in DC. I've tied it into the fact that it's irony of irony that the majority of these shooters who have used guns to kill people are Democrats or lean to the leftist agenda. I'm just pointing this stuff out.
What was the question he posed at the beginning?
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All I'm saying is this will be another arrow in the quiver of the gun control people in DC.
Why should this be special?

The inner city poor have been killing each other for DECADES.

Now that some white people get shot a black president has a problem with it?

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Why should this be special?

The inner city poor have been killing each other for DECADES.

Now that some white people get shot a black president has a problem with it?

And why have we been ignoring their liberal cries for gun control?

I heard Piers Morgan has a huge inner city following, as well.
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I heard Piers Morgan has a huge inner city following, as well.
That's it.

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