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View Poll Results: If no QB then who?
LT Luke Joekel 40 31.01%
DE Star Lotulelei 30 23.26%
LB Jarvis Jones 19 14.73%
Other (who, why?) 40 31.01%
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:23 PM  
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The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll

Scenario (hypothetical):

It has become obvious that the Chiefs will pass on a QB with the top pick and will address the QB need (a) later in round 1, (b) in round 2, or (c) by signing a veteran. No trade down is planned either.

There seems to be the following three names on top of the draft. Among these three which one would you want the Chiefs to use their 1st pick on:

1- LT Luke Joekel (meaning Albert will walk)

2- DE Star Lotulelei (meaning T-Jax will be cut)

3- Jarvis Jones (meaning we are thinking transition to 43 soon)

4- Other (name and explain)

KEEP IN MIND

This is not a Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson discussion. Keep that argument in the hundreds of other threads about it. This is about IF WE DON'T PICK A QB AT THE TOP! Just curious to know which of the picks mentioned makes more sense compared to the others IYO. If you are a staunch Geno fan, for example, this does not paint you as a traitor to the cause.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:16 PM   #286
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:18 PM   #287
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comment in derision all you want. doesn't make it any less true.
Bullshit.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:18 PM   #288
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We just took a safe route 4 years ago that resulted in a "QB with sum xperience" and a low floor guy being two of the worst players at their respected positions and people STILL can't fathom spending a 1st on a QB. Wow...just wow.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:19 PM   #289
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Hey guys remember when we took Tyson Jackson at #3 overall because the media claimed ***** wanted the "safe" pick over the "risky" QB Mark Sanchez?

How well did that "safe" pick work out for us?
Who, outside of Scott Pioli, wanted Tyson Jackson at #3 overall?

I said it the day he was drafted and it's still true: Tyson Jackson was the WORST draft selection in franchise history and set this team back by five years.

No hindsight needed.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:21 PM   #290
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Who, outside of Scott *****, wanted Tyson Jackson at #3 overall?

I said it the day he was drafted and it's still true: Tyson Jackson was the WORST draft selection in franchise history and set this team back by five years.

No hindsight needed.
And to me, a pick of a LT at #1 overall when we're on the eve of re-signing our pretty good one would be just as much of a failure. Same goes for the fat defensive linemen who "collapses the pocket" in the modern NFL, when QBs get rid of the ball so fast the linemen don't have time to collapse the pocket.

Why do Piolis and Casserlys and all those dumbasses advise that teams make those kinds of picks? Because they're ****ing pussies, that's why.

Playing scared in the draft will get you beat. Each and every time.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:27 PM   #291
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Bullshit.
BY DEFINITION, you can't be considered a BUST (all of the guys on my list? COLOSSAL BUSTS) unless it wasn't OBVIOUS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE that you were going to be PRETTY DAMNED GOOD.

vis-a-vis... not bullshit in the least. can't miss. did miss. suck it, trebek.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:37 PM   #292
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Who, outside of Scott *****, wanted Tyson Jackson at #3 overall?

I said it the day he was drafted and it's still true: Tyson Jackson was the WORST draft selection in franchise history and set this team back by five years.

No hindsight needed.
Sanchez is garbage and Jackson can at least play his position at this level. there were other guys, yes, but not Sanchez. He is crap.
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vis-a-vis... not bullshit in the least. can't miss. did miss. suck it, trebek.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:44 PM   #294
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And to me, a pick of a LT at #1 overall when we're on the eve of re-signing our pretty good one would be just as much of a failure. Same goes for the fat defensive linemen who "collapses the pocket" in the modern NFL, when QBs get rid of the ball so fast the linemen don't have time to collapse the pocket.

Why do *****s and Casserlys and all those dumbasses advise that teams make those kinds of picks? Because they're ****ing pussies, that's why.

Playing scared in the draft will get you beat. Each and every time.
And both are unemployed.



(And Jeff Ireland should have joined them this off-season).
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:47 PM   #295
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Dane, your discussion of Manning and how he was viewed is not how it was.

There were a number of questions, most notably, whether he had the requsite arm strength to make all the throwzs because he had a tendency to float the deep outs at Tennesee, and whether he had potential to grow or had he reached his ceiling?.

Bill Polian has talked about he and his scouts struggled with those questins, and the fact that Leaf had superior physical skills and measureables made the decision a last minute one when the draft rolled around.

Plunket and Elway were as close to sure things at QB that have been drafted in the last 40 years prior to Luck.

One was a disappointment.
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:05 PM   #296
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Mark Sanchez is another example of these "sure things" at QB
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Mark Sanchez is another example of these "sure things" at QB
You're full of shit.
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Jake Long was so much greater at his position than Matt Ryan was at his.
Was he?
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:30 PM   #299
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:55 PM   #300
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Steele Jantz to play safety.
I'm pretty sure it was Rustshack that said we needed to take him in the third. That was, of course, when he thought he was playing QB.
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