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Old 02-10-2013, 08:51 AM   #2101
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West Virginia's defense gave up 60 touchdowns.

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Only 5 teams allowed more scores. They also allowed 470 yards per game, average.

They were also 11th in the nation in scoring offense and 10th in offensive yardage.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:51 AM   #2102
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geno can't get the ball down the field. we already have matt cassel. bad pick.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:51 AM   #2103
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The risk of spending so much draft value on someone who is not the best athlete available is very high, especially when you consider that there are veterans like Smith available. The value just isn't there.
So, an honest question - which player is better at their respective position than Geno is at his?

Which player was more productive during his time in college than Geno?

Which player has more upside at their potential NFL position than Geno does at his?

Which player possesses better traits for their position than Geno does at his?

I'll clue you in - nobody.

Not Starlite, not Joeckel (who wasn't even the best tackle on his college team), not Jarvis Jones, not Barkevious Mingo, not Dee Milliner, not Keenan Allen, not Kenny Vaccaro, not nobody. The top guys at their respective positions do not give you more for that position than Geno does for his.

The only guy that is potentially close in terms of what he offers for the position is Chance Warmack, and he's a ****ing guard. And the Chiefs already took two All-American guards (Asamoah & Hudson) recently. And I'd even argue that Barrett Jones was a better guard than Warmack was when Jones was playing guard his sophomore year and got named first team All-American. (And I'd also argue that Warmack also played next to Jones this past season as well as next to DJ Fluker - both players that were more highly regarded as NFL prospect than Warmack going into this season.)

Nope. It's Geno.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:03 AM   #2104
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Moron.

They just took two left tackles in last years draft. Used a second rounder on Jeff Allen and a third rounder on Don Stephenson. So you want to take another one in 2013 with another high round pick? (And yes, the revisionist regime of Peeholi wanted to turn Allen into a guard, but he was an All-Conference left tackle at Illinois for four years.)

I'm amazed that people absolutely forget who got drafted within the past several years if that player doesn't go to the Pro Bowl in his rookie season.

Let's make this perfectly clear - they don't need to draft a left tackle. They drafted two last year - both of whom saw playing time in 2012. They also signed Winston as a free agent last year. That's three tackles that they currently have on roster - in addition to David Mims, so four. And you want them to spend yet another high round pick on that same position?

It's like people wanting them to draft Lotulelei after taking Poe last year.

It's ****ing stupid.

I agree with your sentiment, but Mims is a Raven since Jan 3. I wonder if that got him a ring?
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:07 AM   #2105
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Listening to sac berate another poster for talking about drafting a left tackle in the first round is a lot of fun.

Nice to have ya back, sac.
I've always been here.

I knew that once Cassel was signed/traded for, we were stuck with him for literally years. And he sucked. He didn't have good pocket presence during his starting stint at New England and the Chiefs were going to have to give him a very good offensive line for him to have any success.

Okung was an elite level LT prospect who would have had Albert move into the LG position, where he could have been absolutely dominant. That would have given Cassel that talented offensive line. Not that it would have mattered as he's proven he's freaking horrible and has no business starting in the league.

As well, I wasn't really high on any of the recent QB prospects that the Chiefs actually had a shot of drafting other than Kaepernick and was hoping that he would have been there with the Chiefs second rounder that year. Niners snatched him earlier in that round...

As well, Albert has finally "gotten it" and is playing to his draft position. He's not elite, but he's turned into a pretty good left tackle and with a QB with any degree of field/pocket awareness, arm strength and accuracy, "pretty good" can turn into "very good" for that position.

And, honestly, Geno is as good a pro level QB prospect as I've seen in the past decade plus. He's got all the tools to be elite, and has traits that are "unteachable" that all the high level QB's in the NFL need to possess. He's also a film room junkie that apparently puts in a lot of work off the field.

It's all there and the Chiefs finally have the chance to take "that" guy. This year it's not about reaching for a guy like Sanchez or Clausen or the like. It's about finally having the chance to get the best guy in the draft which also happens to be at the position of biggest need.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:15 AM   #2106
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It wasn't just Okung, it was every left tackle prospect over the last 5 years...but that's behind us now.

Seeing Branden Albert retweet that stuff about Geno was exciting!
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:31 AM   #2107
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It wasn't just Okung, it was every left tackle prospect over the last 5 years...but that's behind us now.

Seeing Branden Albert retweet that stuff about Geno was exciting!
Well, considering what we were trotting out at right tackle since Tait left, it wasn't much of a reach to project a guy at that spot earlier rather than later in the draft. You can't say that the position didn't need to be addressed, and, in fact, it was completely ignored by both Peterson and Peeholi until it got to joke level and finally Winston was signed. At this point it would be assinine for the Chiefs to look at anyone at an offensive line position until the last two rounds or free agency.

But, with Winston and Albert along with Hudson, Asasmoah and Allen/Stephenson, that's a pretty solid, young offensive line that already has time together and will only get better.

Now, you can pick up guys in the later rounds/free agency to fill in/depth like successful teams do and go after the top players/athletes versus draft strictly on a need basis. And, as I stated, oddly enough, the Chiefs are in a position to get the best player in this draft which also happens to be at the last piece of the puzzle for the Chiefs to begin to have success in the NFL.

I've always said, there are three things that give you a chance to win on Sunday:

1. A real QB
2. Protect that real QB
3. Pressure the other QB

We've got 2 and 3. We now have the opportunity to get the most important part of it.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:48 AM   #2108
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So, an honest question - which player is better at their respective position than Geno is at his?

Which player was more productive during his time in college than Geno?

Which player has more upside at their potential NFL position than Geno does at his?

Which player possesses better traits for their position than Geno does at his?

I'll clue you in - nobody.

Not Starlite, not Joeckel (who wasn't even the best tackle on his college team), not Jarvis Jones, not Barkevious Mingo, not Dee Milliner, not Keenan Allen, not Kenny Vaccaro, not nobody. The top guys at their respective positions do not give you more for that position than Geno does for his.

The only guy that is potentially close in terms of what he offers for the position is Chance Warmack, and he's a ****ing guard. And the Chiefs already took two All-American guards (Asamoah & Hudson) recently. And I'd even argue that Barrett Jones was a better guard than Warmack was when Jones was playing guard his sophomore year and got named first team All-American. (And I'd also argue that Warmack also played next to Jones this past season as well as next to DJ Fluker - both players that were more highly regarded as NFL prospect than Warmack going into this season.)

Nope. It's Geno.
Warmack is better than DJ Fluker. Fluker was more regarded because of measurables. Warmack has been incredible. Watch the SEC championship game from this past season again: Barrett Jones is hurt, and Warmack is willing Alabama to victory.
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Listening to sac berate another poster for talking about drafting a left tackle in the first round is a lot of fun.

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Old 02-10-2013, 10:22 AM   #2110
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how can this thread still be going?


you could have broken down every throw Geno Smith made in his college career by now and still had posts left over.




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Old 02-10-2013, 10:27 AM   #2111
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Will we turn the keys to the franchise over to:

Someone who dominated the Big East, but couldn't win games in the Big 12? Who only beat one Big 12 team besides ISU and Kansas?

or

Someone who was quarterbacking in the NFC championship game last year and posted a 90 QB Rating?

Which sounds like the better bet?
You are really a sad Carl Peterson-wannabe with your eternal erection for crappy 49er QBs. Thanks for confirming.

If you actually watched the NFC Championship Game last year... which you clearly did not given the nature of your inane comments... you would have recognized the fact the 49ers had zero downfield passing game thanks mostly to Alex Smith's inability to throw the ball downfield.

Alex Smith's limitations were exposed.

He can put up a good QB rating, managing a conservative passing offense behind a good running game, offensive line and stifling defense... yet when it is needed for him to make plays downfield in the passing game he comes up short.

Sounds like pretty much every QB the Chiefs have had... save for a flash or two from Joe Montana and Trent Green... the past 20+ years.

The stink from your True Fanisms are getting old as is your lame "I secretly love Carl Peterson" act.

Kill yourself.
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So according to HotCarl, we shouldn't draft anyone in this draft because they haven't played in the NFL yet?
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