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View Poll Results: If no QB then who?
LT Luke Joekel 40 31.01%
DE Star Lotulelei 30 23.26%
LB Jarvis Jones 19 14.73%
Other (who, why?) 40 31.01%
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:23 PM  
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The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll

Scenario (hypothetical):

It has become obvious that the Chiefs will pass on a QB with the top pick and will address the QB need (a) later in round 1, (b) in round 2, or (c) by signing a veteran. No trade down is planned either.

There seems to be the following three names on top of the draft. Among these three which one would you want the Chiefs to use their 1st pick on:

1- LT Luke Joekel (meaning Albert will walk)

2- DE Star Lotulelei (meaning T-Jax will be cut)

3- Jarvis Jones (meaning we are thinking transition to 43 soon)

4- Other (name and explain)

KEEP IN MIND

This is not a Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson discussion. Keep that argument in the hundreds of other threads about it. This is about IF WE DON'T PICK A QB AT THE TOP! Just curious to know which of the picks mentioned makes more sense compared to the others IYO. If you are a staunch Geno fan, for example, this does not paint you as a traitor to the cause.
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:22 PM   #436
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BINGO.

And coaching.
I agree with the coaching part, to an extent.

But Jim Harbaugh is a better coach than John, IMO.

The difference in that SB was the fact that Joe Flacco had a transcendant game.
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:36 PM   #437
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If it's not a QB, it doesn't matter. If they get some retread backup from another team to start, then Reid is just a fatter, burned out version of Marty.
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:38 PM   #438
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You're talking about a team that has failed to win a PLAYOFF game in 20 years, yet making Super Bowl will be as easy as taking a QB #1 overall in a year when the best prospect would be a bottom first if not a second on most years, is the answer.

Again, the ****ing hyperbole is highest it's been in the history of Chiefsplanet.
That's bullshit hyperbole Dane
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:46 PM   #439
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That's bullshit hyperbole Dane
No, it's not.

The Combines haven't even taken place yet in the minds of many CPers, Smith is a Super Bowl QB that's unquestionably the number overall choice.

Yet, outside of this forum, he's viewed by many as a second rounder, a guy with questionable leadeship skills and for certain, he's no where near the consensus number one pick.

Now, that's not to say that he won't become those things, but similar things were said about Jimmy Clausen a few years back, yet he fell to the second round and has sucked ass in the NFL.
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:48 PM   #440
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If it's not a QB, it doesn't matter. If they get some retread backup from another team to start, then Reid is just a fatter, burned out version of Marty.
Or maybe, just maybe, he doesn't like him to lead his team.

Regardless, it's stupid to state that Reid is a failure neary three full months before the draft and 8 months before he's coached his first game.
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:52 PM   #441
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Yet, outside of this forum, he's viewed by many as a second rounder, a guy with questionable leadeship skills and for certain, he's no where near the consensus number one pick.
And NFL Network just mocked him #1 yesterday.

You're leaning a bit too far over the "Chiefsplanet is the only place Geno is highly regarded" fence.
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:52 PM   #442
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No, it's not.

The Combines haven't even taken place yet in the minds of many CPers, Smith is a Super Bowl QB that's unquestionably the number overall choice.

Yet, outside of this forum, he's viewed by many as a second rounder, a guy with questionable leadeship skills and for certain, he's no where near the consensus number one pick.

Now, that's not to say that he won't become those things, but similar things were said about Jimmy Clausen a few years back, yet he fell tothe second round and has sucked ass in the NFL.
I think most of us believe that the 5th to 7th overall ranking that some have him listed at is far more realistic than the 2nd round talent that others have him listed as being.

Therefore it is not as much of a reach to see him going 1st overall to us.

Hell, many of those who say he is too big of reach to take at #1 have him going 3rd or 4th and being a good pick at that spot.
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There is absolutely no way Geno makes it past the Raiders at #3. I will bet anyone anything on that. Come at me Dane.
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:53 PM   #444
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Tons of mocks. Likely around 70% have Smith going #1 overall.
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Old 02-10-2013, 03:12 PM   #445
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There is absolutely no way Geno makes it past the Raiders at #3. I will bet anyone anything on that. Come at me Dane.
I believe it's at least 50/50 that he will be the Raiders QB this coming year.
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Old 02-10-2013, 03:21 PM   #446
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You know shit.

TeBow was great college player, whose QB skills were virtually non existent.

He has poor accuracy and terrible mechanics that can not be hidden by scheme against NFL talent.

His lack of QB skills are extremely relevant.
And yet he was still a great college QB, just like I said.
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Old 02-10-2013, 03:23 PM   #447
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Logic states that free agent qbs don't win SBS. Yet here we are discussing this again
That's not logic, that's an assumption that past performance over a limited data set can be extrapolated into the future along a straight line.
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There is absolutely no way Geno makes it past the Raiders at #3. I will bet anyone anything on that. Come at me Dane.
So, if Reid passes (pure speculation but its been proffered more than once lately), do you feel that makes him a "failure", as its been proclaimed by others?
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http://www.walterfootball.com/draftdata.php

Tons of mocks. Likely around 70% have Smith going #1 overall.
I find it quite curious that without the benefit of the Combines and the Senior Bowl that people suddenly have begun mocking him at #1 to the Chiefs.

I wonder if it's due to film study, peer pressure or just not wanting to be wrong come draft day?
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So, if Reid passes (pure speculation but its been proffered more than once lately), do you feel that makes him a "failure", as its been proclaimed by others?
you can't consider him a success or failure until after the 3rd year. However, you can definitely disagree with his decisions. Fortunately there are no decisions to dislike, yet.
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