The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll

[Frankie]

Scenario (hypothetical):

It has become obvious that the Chiefs will pass on a QB with the top pick and will address the QB need (a) later in round 1, (b) in round 2, or (c) by signing a veteran. No trade down is planned either.

There seems to be the following three names on top of the draft. Among these three which one would you want the Chiefs to use their 1st pick on:

1- LT Luke Joekel (meaning Albert will walk)

2- DE Star Lotulelei (meaning T-Jax will be cut)

3- Jarvis Jones (meaning we are thinking transition to 43 soon)

4- Other (name and explain)

KEEP IN MIND

This is not a Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson discussion. Keep that argument in the hundreds of other threads about it. This is about IF WE DON'T PICK A QB AT THE TOP! Just curious to know which of the picks mentioned makes more sense compared to the others IYO. If you are a staunch Geno fan, for example, this does not paint you as a traitor to the cause.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by PGM

...and let us continue that discussion till every Chief fan wants him in Red and Gold

Hear-hear! I dont think ive evar been this excited about a draft...or at least this hopeful...
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[Sorter]

Originally Posted by HotCarl

History shows that first round quarterbacks win Super Bowls. Well, here is one likely available for no draft picks. He would normally never be on the market, except he lost his job due to injury. This is the best shot any team has had in years to get a franchise quarterback for pennies on the dollar.

That's what you're getting with the new CBA and being able to pick the best QB available...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

i guess it IS possible to be a player with a useless true fan brain....
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Spott

If it's not a QB, it doesn't matter. If they get some retread backup from another team to start, then Reid is just a fatter, burned out version of Marty.

cmon man! All you need is martyball..len dawson..and foghat jammin on the fox/dumbassed 90s-lovin true fan
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So, if Reid passes (pure speculation but its been proffered more than once lately), do you feel that makes him a "failure", as its been proclaimed by others?

it certanly takes him out of the "worth two ****s" category in life...
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by HotCarl

History shows that first round quarterbacks win Super Bowls. Well, here is one likely available for no draft picks. He would normally never be on the market, except he lost his job due to injury. This is the best shot any team has had in years to get a franchise quarterback for pennies on the dollar.

go shove pennies up yor ass you ****ing coalition trolltard.
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[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by HotCarl

History shows that first round quarterbacks win Super Bowls. Well, here is one likely available for no draft picks. He would normally never be on the market, except he lost his job due to injury. This is the best shot any team has had in years to get a franchise quarterback for pennies on the dollar.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Alex Smith is a good QB. Geno Smith may never be a good QB.

you're such a true fan pussy....

basically, you're the model for a true fan pussy...and you're not even a chiefs fan which is more pathetic by a factor of a 1000

[RyFo18]

As this whole draft process goes on I think Star Lotulelei will probably establish himself as the best prospect in the draft. And I won't minimize the impact he'd have as a 3-4 DE that can actually get at the passer. He would make things so much easier for Hali/Houston which in turn makes things so much easier for the secondary.

[HotCarl]

Originally Posted by RyFo18

As this whole draft process goes on I think Star Lotulelei will probably establish himself as the best prospect in the draft. And I won't minimize the impact he'd have as a 3-4 DE that can actually get at the passer. He would make things so much easier for Hali/Houston which in turn makes things so much easier for the secondary.

Careful, the brain trust says Star ruined his draft stock because of the senior bowl. It hurts some players more than others I guess

[SNR]

Originally Posted by RyFo18

As this whole draft process goes on I think Star Lotulelei will probably establish himself as the best prospect in the draft. And I won't minimize the impact he'd have as a 3-4 DE that can actually get at the passer. He would make things so much easier for Hali/Houston which in turn makes things so much easier for the secondary.

Uhh what? Explain how Star Lotulelei would fit in a 1-gap scheme. He doesn't shoot for penetration. He collapses blocks. THat's what he does best. He wouldn't help our pass rush with shit.

[RyFo18]

Originally Posted by SNR

Uhh what? Explain how Star Lotulelei would fit in a 1-gap scheme. He doesn't shoot for penetration. He collapses blocks. THat's what he does best. He wouldn't help our pass rush with shit.

From what I've seen, Star is very solid in taking up space. As far as a pass rusher, he needs some work on his pass rushing moves, but he has the ability to collapse the pocket with his strong bull rush. QBs won't be able to step up to avoid sacks from the outside rushers. When I look at Jackson/Dorsey, they're decent at holding blocks and taking up space, but they don't have the strength to push blockers backwards on a regular basis. Star can do that.

All told, I think he can develop into a player like Haloti Ngata.

[JASONSAUTO]

Originally Posted by HotCarl

History shows that first round quarterbacks win Super Bowls. Well, here is one likely available for no draft picks. He would normally never be on the market, except he lost his job due to injury. This is the best shot any team has had in years to get a franchise quarterback for pennies on the dollar.

he is gong to get paid more than luck, Newton, and Griffin.

That's not Pennies on the dollar
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[SNR]

Originally Posted by RyFo18

From what I've seen, Star is very solid in taking up space. As far as a pass rusher, he needs some work on his pass rushing moves, but he has the ability to collapse the pocket with his strong bull rush. QBs won't be able to step up to avoid sacks from the outside rushers. When I look at Jackson/Dorsey, they're decent at holding blocks and taking up space, but they don't have the strength to push blockers backwards on a regular basis. Star can do that.

All told, I think he can develop into a player like Haloti Ngata.

Dude's sounding more Tyson Jacksony the more people talk about him.

THat's EXACTLY how people described Tyson Jackson coming into the pros.

I don't want players who "need to work on" the thing that we need them to do. Star will be no more effective than Glenn Dorsey on this defensive line.

**** him.