The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll

[Frankie]

Scenario (hypothetical):

It has become obvious that the Chiefs will pass on a QB with the top pick and will address the QB need (a) later in round 1, (b) in round 2, or (c) by signing a veteran. No trade down is planned either.

There seems to be the following three names on top of the draft. Among these three which one would you want the Chiefs to use their 1st pick on:

1- LT Luke Joekel (meaning Albert will walk)

2- DE Star Lotulelei (meaning T-Jax will be cut)

3- Jarvis Jones (meaning we are thinking transition to 43 soon)

4- Other (name and explain)

KEEP IN MIND

This is not a Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson discussion. Keep that argument in the hundreds of other threads about it. This is about IF WE DON'T PICK A QB AT THE TOP! Just curious to know which of the picks mentioned makes more sense compared to the others IYO. If you are a staunch Geno fan, for example, this does not paint you as a traitor to the cause.

[JASONSAUTO]

Originally Posted by HotCarl

Careful, the brain trust says Star ruined his draft stock because of the senior bowl. It hurts some players more than others I guess

It's called sarcasm
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[RyFo18]

Originally Posted by SNR

Dude's sounding more Tyson Jacksony the more people talk about him.

THat's EXACTLY how people described Tyson Jackson coming into the pros.

I don't want players who "need to work on" the thing that we need them to do. Star will be no more effective than Glenn Dorsey on this defensive line.

**** him.

Fair enough. I've watched about 6 games of him and I'm way more enamored from him than I ever was Tyson Jackson. One man's opinion. Just saying what I think ends up happening. But I don't have anymore a clue as to who the new regime will pick than anyone else on this board.

[SNR]

Originally Posted by RyFo18

Fair enough. I've watched about 6 games of him and I'm way more enamored from him than I ever was Tyson Jackson. One man's opinion. Just saying what I think ends up happening. But I don't have anymore a clue as to who the new regime will pick than anyone else on this board.

I'm not directing my anger at you. I'm directing my anger at Star for resembling the kind of defensive linemen the Chiefs draft and then wonder why QBs have an entirely clean pocket when we don't send blitzers

[RyFo18]

Originally Posted by SNR

I'm not directing my anger at you. I'm directing my anger at Star for resembling the kind of defensive linemen the Chiefs draft and then wonder why QBs have an entirely clean pocket when we don't send blitzers

Ha, I can totally understand that.

[KC native]

Originally Posted by SNR

Dude's sounding more Tyson Jacksony the more people talk about him.

THat's EXACTLY how people described Tyson Jackson coming into the pros.

I don't want players who "need to work on" the thing that we need them to do. Star will be no more effective than Glenn Dorsey on this defensive line.

**** him.

This. He isn't a pass rusher. I pissed off a friend on facebook when I told him he was stupid for wanting Tyson Jackson part 2.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Yeah, you don't think Tim Tebow was a great college QB and I'm the guy who doesn't have a clue. Brilliant.

You illustrate your sheer stupidity with each post.

[B14ckmon]

Mr. Lotulelei will be playing in Jacksonville next year. So might as well remove him from the poll.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Mr. Lotulelei will be playing in Jacksonville next year. So might as well remove him from the poll.

You can have him.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Mr. Lotulelei will be playing in Jacksonville next year. So might as well remove him from the poll.

Let us know how your franchise DT works out for the success of your team.

[Crush]

Other

Bullet to the brain.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

It's called sarcasm
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It's a subtle art.

Are you surprised he didn't get it?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Let's be real for a second. Jimmy Clausen was a spoon fed weiner with an overall lack of skills for the position at the next level. Arm strength was middling at best, zero mobility, a lack of pocket presence, etc. There was no way that this guy was going to be a good pro and the only reason that people got worked up around here about it was the Weis was the OC and people thought he would be an easier transition because he knew the system.

There is no way that Clausen is even close to Geno in terms of being an NFL prospect. NOT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE.

Geno is legit, and most drafniks have had him going to the Chiefs at #1. Other than Kiper and McShay. So, I guess it comes down to who you find plausible in terms of player draft analysis - the two draftnik helmetheads at ESPN or just about everybody else on the planet.

Riiiight.

Okung.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by SNR

Dude, I think I'm just going to have to leave these posts alone until the draft is over. I really do think you're grossly misrepresenting what people believe about Geno Smith on this board.

Geno Smith MIGHT be a Super Bowl QB. He has the potential. And if he goes to KC, he'll have the coaching staff to put him in that position. He's not a savior, but lots of people like him and want him to be a Chief. You don't have to label it as a religious fervor. In fact, you SHOULDN'T. Because that's not what's going on. At all.

Alex Smith will NOT be a Super Bowl QB. Ever. Barring, of course, a Trent Dilfer-like experience, which I'm not anticipating to happen in the NFL ever again.

That's why so many people are positive on Geno and negative on Alex Smith.

If Andy drafts Geno Smith, and Geno busts, Andy is not a failure. If Andy punts on this QB issue in year one by trading for Alex Smith/Matt Flynn/Nick Foles, then yes, he absolutely IS a failure. Right out of the gate. No questions asked.

http://mellinger.kansascity.com/entr...happelle-show/

@TheJeffReport convince me that the Chiefs not drafting a QB number one overall is the smart thing to do #TwitterTuesday
The inconvenient truth is that the Chiefs stunk one year too late. The NFL personnel community is unanimous that there is no sure franchise quarterback in this draft, and drafting a guy first overall won’t change that.

I’ve been pretty consistent on this: the Chiefs NEED to upgrade at quarterback during the offseason, but I don’t care how they do it. If they decide their own needs plus a particular quarterback’s ability is worth the first pick, then cool. But if they decide they can get a worthy quarterback later in the draft, or through a trade, then they should do that.

But taking a guy first overall won’t make him Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning or even Eli Manning. It might just mean they spent the highest NFL pick in franchise history on a guy they could’ve had in the second round.

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I'm sorry but I'm not just reading this shit from "National Guys" or whatnot.

At this point, there is no consensus.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Draft a QB or be fired....

Says the guy that knows ****ing **** about football.

[Branden Albert's Huge Balls]

SAM MELLINGER YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN STUPID BEFORE WE FIX YOUR BRAIN, MAN