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Old 02-16-2013, 01:15 PM  
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Fair value for Bowe: 5 years, 58m, 20m guaranteed.

Per this very insightful breakdown.

http://overthecap.com/estimating-the...r-dwayne-bowe/

It's long but here's the meat:

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Comparable Players

Most likely Bowe has two players in mind when looking for a new deal- Vincent Jackson and DeSean Jackson, who both signed new contracts in 2012. I also want to look at the performance of two older players, Brandon Marshall and Andre Johnson, who both signed new contracts back in 2010. The table below compares the 3 year averages of each player prior to their extension:



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These are 3 year averages for D. Jackson and Bowe but only 2 year averages for V. Jackson since he held out all but 5 games of the 2010 season.

The numbers are adjusted for games missed to not inflate the performance of the others on the team when the player in question was injured.


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Now we can see how favorably Bowe compares to Jackson. Bowe was a more valuable player to the Chiefs than Jackson was to the Chargers and perhaps that is why the Chiefs are rumored to now want to keep him in the fold.

I think the most striking stat is the interception rate which pointed to Jackson seeing a lot of passes attempted for him getting picked off compared to Bowe. These numbers tell me that Bowe is a clear number 1 and was doing some pretty impressive things in Kansas City with almost no talent around him.
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Based on the comparative performance I am going to push and say on average Bowe is worth about 9.5% more than Jackson, which is pretty much the upper bound of his deal. That would equate to a deal worth a little below $12.2 million a year.

Now I donít think that will happen. Based on the same analysis Vincent was about 33% more valuable than DeSean but overall his deal ended up 14.5% higher in APY. Using the same adjustment Bowe should earn a realistic deal worth 4.2% more than Jackson, equating to about $11.58 million a season.
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Old 02-16-2013, 03:06 PM   #16
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So easily riffled these days, it was a little unclear. That is all, don't be such a sissy girl. Oh wait.....
It wasn't confusing at all. I clicked here expecting to see analysis of what Bowe's fair value ought to be.
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Old 02-16-2013, 03:07 PM   #17
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Sure it would..

the difference between Bowe and those elite receivers is that they don't go to clubs every weekend with Birdman and Lil wayne and smoke weed.

Bowe has motivation problems and want's to be a rapper, he's also a snitch and a selfish player
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Old 02-16-2013, 03:08 PM   #18
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Sure it would..

the difference between Bowe and those elite receivers is that they don't go to clubs every weekend with Birdman and Lil wayne and smoke weed.

Bowe has motivation problems and want's to be a rapper, he's also a snitch and a selfish player
BlackBob, or just someone trying really hard to be like him?
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Old 02-16-2013, 03:09 PM   #19
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Sure it would..

the difference between Bowe and those elite receivers is that they don't go to clubs every weekend with Birdman and Lil wayne and smoke weed.

Bowe has motivation problems and want's to be a rapper, he's also a snitch and a selfish player
get ****ed, then get the **** out.
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Old 02-16-2013, 03:11 PM   #20
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While I totally disagree with te tone of that post, there is SOME truth in it.

He looked high as a kite in that picture with the "baked" hat on and he did snitch on the whole importing thing...

I'd still sign him to big bucks, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them want to put a clause that voids part of the deal if off field stuff gets in the way of his game.
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Old 02-16-2013, 03:13 PM   #21
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While I totally disagree with te tone of that post, there is SOME truth in it.

He looked high as a kite in that picture with the "baked" hat on and he did snitch on the whole importing thing...

I'd still sign him to big bucks, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them want to put a clause that voids part of the deal if off field stuff gets in the way of his game.
He was at the superbowl with Birdman, wayne and that young money crew looking high as a kite.
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He was at the superbowl with Birdman, wayne and that young money crew looking high as a kite.
As long as he doesn't get caught, I don't give a ****.
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Old 02-16-2013, 03:16 PM   #23
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same i have no problem with weed but it does kill you're motivation.
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same i have no problem with weed but it does kill you're motivation.
Motivation isn't the problem for a guy with Bowes production consistency.
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While I totally disagree with te tone of that post, there is SOME truth in it.

He looked high as a kite in that picture with the "baked" hat on and he did snitch on the whole importing thing...

I'd still sign him to big bucks, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them want to put a clause that voids part of the deal if off field stuff gets in the way of his game.
Snitching is when you roll over on your friends and rat them out to get out of getting in trouble yourself.

He didn't SNITCH on anybody. He just failed to keep the whole importing thing a big secret. He BLABBED, he didn't "snitch".
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