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Old 02-15-2013, 11:00 AM  
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It is safe to assume that we will not draft Joeckel.

Its now safe to assume we sign Bowe to a long-term deal, barring any unforeseen developments in the contract negotiation process.

This means we have a franchise tag free to use.

Which, in turn, means that it is safe to assume that if we don't get a long term deal figured out with Branden Albert, we can/will franchise him.

This means it is safe to say assume now, that we will not draft Joeckel.

One hurdle (the biggest one, IMO) out of the way for us taking Geno.
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:08 PM   #91
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If Star can develop some pass rushing skills, I think he would make our DL really really good. Pair him with Poe and thats a shit ton of athletic ability up there.
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:09 PM   #92
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If Star can develop some pass rushing skills, I think he would make our DL really really good. Pair him with Poe and thats a shit ton of athletic ability up there.
Sounds like a GREAT use of the #1 overall pick...'

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Old 02-16-2013, 06:44 PM   #93
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i think the key word is "definite". There is still more defining to do.
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:45 PM   #94
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Sounds like a GREAT use of the #1 overall pick...'

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I'm just trying to brainstorm what they're thinking. I guess Milliner could come into play, but if it's not Joeckel, it's Star or ?
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:47 PM   #95
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If Star can develop some pass rushing skills, I think he would make our DL really really good. Pair him with Poe and thats a shit ton of athletic ability up there.
I have more confidence in Geno developing a better lower body so his throws are zip-line smooth and quick than I do Star Lotulelei developing pass rush moves.

One does not simply develop pass rush moves. Just as Tyson Jackson and Aaron Curry.

That's why I don't ****ing understand why John Dorsey would be possessed enough to take a non-QB at #1 assuming the organization wants to re-sign Albert (which we know they do).
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:51 PM   #96
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I have more confidence in Geno developing a better lower body so his throws are zip-line smooth and quick than I do Star Lotulelei developing pass rush moves.

One does not simply develop pass rush moves. Just as Tyson Jackson and Aaron Curry.

That's why I don't ****ing understand why John Dorsey would be possessed enough to take a non-QB at #1 assuming the organization wants to re-sign Albert (which we know they do).
We know they want to, dunno if they will.
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:12 PM   #97
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If Star can develop some pass rushing skills


People said the same thing about Tyson Jackson.

I mean talk about fail...it's bad enough to take a 3-4 end #3 overall...but to do it #1?

Unprecedented level of dumbass.
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:14 PM   #98
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People said the same thing about Tyson Jackson.

I mean talk about fail...it's bad enough to take a 3-4 end #3 overall...but to do it #1?

Unprecedented level of dumbass.
Fine. Then who are we taking there?
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:18 PM   #99
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Fine. Then who are we taking there?
Just pass on the ****ing pick. Let's become the court jester of the NFL.
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:19 PM   #100
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Maybe Sheldon Ri.............I can't even get that out. I just can't take him at 1.
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:28 PM   #101
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:58 AM   #102
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Ultimately, the decision to draft Joeckel or Smith boils down to fundamental draft philosophy: draft for a need or draft the best player available?

The below article discussed the different directions KC can go in and provides some interesting food for thought:

downattheone.com/features

Should we draft for the future or gamble on a need?
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:01 AM   #103
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Ultimately, the decision to draft Joeckel or Smith boils down to fundamental draft philosophy: draft for a need or draft the best player available?

The below article discussed the different directions KC can go in and provides some interesting food for thought:

downattheone.com/features

Should we draft for the future or gamble on a need?
Joeckel isn't "drafting for the future" anymore than signing Albert is.

EVERY draft pick is a gamble. Ask the Packers if they regret picking Tony Mandarich over Barry Sander and Derrick Thomas.

Drafting Luke Joeckel is one thing, though.

STUPID.
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:02 AM   #104
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Fine. Then who are we taking there?
Geno.

Get some gauze and stop the bleeding my man.
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:04 AM   #105
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Joeckel isn't "drafting for the future" anymore than signing Albert is.

EVERY draft pick is a gamble. Ask the Packers if they regret picking Tony Mandarich over Barry Sander and Derrick Thomas.

Drafting Luke Joeckel is one thing, though.

STUPID.
This.

I freaking wish people or draft gurus wouldn't stop acting like it's impossible for O-linemen to bust.

How many times have we heard "Draft this guy and you're set at (Tackel, Guard, Center) for the next 10 years."

That's ridiculous.
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