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Old 02-14-2013, 10:24 PM  
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A little something for the nutjobs - all that ammo

Homeland Security and its cache of bullets
By ALICIA A. CALDWELL | Associated Press 10 hrs ago

WASHINGTON (AP) Online rumors about a big government munitions purchase are true, sort of.

The Homeland Security Department wants to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next four or five years. It says it needs them roughly the equivalent of five bullets for every person in the United States for law enforcement agents in training and on duty.

Published federal notices about the ammo buy have agitated conspiracy theorists since the fall. That's when conservative radio host Alex Jones spoke of an "arms race against the American people" and said the government was "gearing up for total collapse, they're gearing up for huge wars."

The government's explanation is much less sinister.

Federal solicitations to buy the bullets are known as "strategic sourcing contracts," which help the government get a low price for a big purchase, says Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Ga . The training center and others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises.

Dixon said one of the contracts would allow Homeland Security to buy up to 750 million rounds of ammunition over the next five years for its training facilities. The rounds are used for basic and advanced law enforcement training for federal law enforcement agencies under the department's umbrella. The facilities also offer firearms training to tens of thousands of federal law enforcement officers. More than 90 federal agencies and 70,000 agents and officers used the department's training center last year.

The rest of the 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition would be purchased by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the federal government's second largest criminal investigative agency.

ICE's ammunition requests in the last year included:

450 million rounds of .40-caliber duty ammunition

40 million rounds of rifle ammunition a year for as many as five years, for a total bullet-buy of 200 million rounds

176,000 rifle rounds on a separate contract

25,000 blank rounds

The Homeland Security ammo buy is not the first time the government's bullets purchases have sparked concerns on the Internet. The same thing happened last year when the Social Security Administration posted a notice that it was buying 174,000 hollow point bullets.

Jonathan L. Lasher, the agency's assistant inspector general for external relations, said those bullets were for the Social Security inspector general's office, which has about 295 agents who investigate Social Security fraud and other crimes.

Jones the talk-show host did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

http://news.yahoo.com/homeland-secur...190840538.html
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:30 PM   #46
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"I have no doubt that the ultimate plan here is to arm TSA agents and unleash them across the USA as a new storm trooper force to put in place total tyranny across the country."

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Pretty far fetched huh
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:31 PM   #47
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They are arming up to wage war on the American citizen. When the dollar crashes their will be bedlam.
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:47 PM   #48
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I honestly don't know how you nutjobs even get out of bed in the morning (or fall asleep at night) knowing full well that the govt is going to put a bullet in your head any day now. Are you nuts even doing anything about it?

You building an arsenal? No matter what you got, you only have two hands to shoot with. I'd say you're ****ed.

You should probably be planning to get the **** out of town for awhile. You have plans for that?

No, you're just playing pretend and imagining yourself as Rambo while sitting on your ass on the internet.
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:49 PM   #49
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I honestly don't know how you nutjobs even get out of bed in the morning (or fall asleep at night) knowing full well that the govt is going to put a bullet in your head any day now. Are you nuts even doing anything about it?

You building an arsenal? No matter what you got, you only have two hands to shoot with. I'd say you're ****ed.

You should probably be planning to get the **** out of town for awhile. You have plans for that?

No, you're just playing pretend and imagining yourself as Rambo while sitting on your ass on the internet.
Since we can be assured the Gov is not coming after us, then why the need for all the hollow point ammo?
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:18 PM   #50
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I honestly don't know how you nutjobs even get out of bed in the morning (or fall asleep at night) knowing full well that the govt is going to put a bullet in your head any day now. Are you nuts even doing anything about it?

You building an arsenal? No matter what you got, you only have two hands to shoot with. I'd say you're ****ed.

You should probably be planning to get the **** out of town for awhile. You have plans for that?

No, you're just playing pretend and imagining yourself as Rambo while sitting on your ass on the internet.
If they start with me, sure. I'm thinking I might get a little advance warning. The getting the **** out of town part comes later.

You, on the other hand - will either make a lovely slave, or perhaps dinner. Or maybe you've got a purty mouth. I guess it's good to have a skill, right?
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:05 PM   #51
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If they start with me, sure. I'm thinking I might get a little advance warning. The getting the **** out of town part comes later.

You, on the other hand - will either make a lovely slave, or perhaps dinner. Or maybe you've got a purty mouth. I guess it's good to have a skill, right?
If you were truly concerned about it, you would be doing something now. Unless you're stupid. Advance warning? All that's already been discussed is the advanced warning, isn't it? You expect Alex Jones to send you a "Now its REALLY time to get out" e-mail?
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:14 PM   #52
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If you were truly concerned about it, you would be doing something now.
We are doing something about it. We didn't vote for the clown in office and we're making it clear that we are against those that want to put bans on rifles that are scary looking.

You just keep following your beloved leader. You and your kind can keep collecting your government checks that I'm working hard to provide.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:23 PM   #53
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We are doing something about it. We didn't vote for the clown in office and we're making it clear that we are against those that want to put bans on rifles that are scary looking.

You just keep following your beloved leader. You and your kind can keep collecting your government checks that I'm working hard to provide.
Why does not buying into hysterical conspiracy theories equate to "following your beloved leader?"

And I haven't said shit about being in favor of any gun bans and have never needed a govt check. If you truly believe this nonsense about the govt declaring war on us, and all you're doing is voting against "the clown in office", you're pretty dumb.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:36 PM   #54
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Why does not buying into hysterical conspiracy theories equate to "following your beloved leader?"

And I haven't said shit about being in favor of any gun bans and have never needed a govt check. If you truly believe this nonsense about the govt declaring war on us, and all you're doing is voting against "the clown in office", you're pretty dumb.
I've never said they're declaring war on us, but it sure looks suspicious.

I voted against more than one clown running for office at all different levels. What else do you expect me to do? Declare war on my country? Go on a shooting spree and fight for my rights? That would sure help the liberals agenda.

BTW...I've been civil in all my posts in DC so far, however since you decided to resort to name calling...go **** yourself. You're just another weak piece of shit following the herd. I thought Knowmo was the most annoying little bitch on here until I started reading your feeble minded posts.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:38 PM   #55
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How much has been ordered in the past? How often was the ammo ordered?


If this is a normal thing, who gives a ****? If this is a huge spike that bucks the normal trend, we should be worried.
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After we draft a LT or DT at #1, a bullet will be welcome.
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I've never said they're declaring war on us, but it sure looks suspicious.

I voted against more than one clown running for office at all different levels. What else do you expect me to do? Declare war on my country? Go on a shooting spree and fight for my rights? That would sure help the liberals agenda.

BTW...I've been civil in all my posts in DC so far, however since you decided to resort to name calling...go **** yourself. You're just another weak piece of shit following the herd. I thought Knowmo was the most annoying little bitch on here until I started reading your feeble minded posts.
It looks suspicious? Why? Because you are familiar with the "normal" amounts of ammo the govt normally uses? That's what I find funny--all these "suspicions" are really based on nothing. No point of reference. No knowledge of the "norm." Just big numbers that you don't know what to do with.

Have I directed any names to you? I don't think I have. But you are sounding like one of the many nuts who pollute this board.

And again--not believing this shit I guess means I'm "following the herd." JFC, I've heard this stuff for years, especially starting 4+ years ago when Obama was first elected, that he was going to enslave the country in a dictatorship--do away with elections and everything. Well, he's got less than 4 years left to install himself as ruler and take all of your guns. Are you really one who buys this crap?
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