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Old 10-27-2012, 08:53 PM  
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Official 2012-2013 NBA Thread

Looks like James Harden has been To the Rockets for Jeremey Lamb, Kevin Martin and future picks. Plus... this is a general NBA thread.
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:44 PM   #1861
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Those guys weren't there when Jordan first started winning rings. Jordan started really rolling with a really scrappy supporting cast, for the most part.
There were basically two incarnations of the Bulls teams. The second one was better with Kukoc and Rodman, but Horace Grant was also a damn good player in the early 90s.
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:53 PM   #1862
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The idea that they should be compared apples to apples based on a bunch of statistics is completely inaccurate.
The idea that they can be compared any other way fairly and accurately is absurd. They are facts...the rest of it is anecdotal and opinionated.
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:56 PM   #1863
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There is some truth to the idea of it being difficult to compare different generations of sport, but to say that the stats are useless is a complete overstatement. In fact, they're really the only thing that allow us to compare different generations with any kind of accuracy (and again, without the nostalgia/mythologizing of the past).


MJ's Bulls teams lost six consecutive times in the playoffs before they finally won a championship. Remarkably similar to LeBron's teams.
Do you think stats alone could accurately compare say Oscar Robertson to Lebron or MJ?

You know what I was talking about Montana\MJ never lost a SB\NBA Finals. That is one of the main reasons why they are considered GOAT's.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:04 PM   #1864
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and people talk about MJ and his 6 titles.

Lets be real here. MJ probably WOULD have won every title in the 90s had he not

A) retired the first time
B) Reinsdorf paid them all one more time not to retire the second time

does anyone realistically think the Bulls would have won every title from 1990-1999 had Jordan came back for one more year AND had he not retired right in the middle of his two three-peats?

So the whole "Kobe wants to get 6 so he can be like MJ" thing cracks me up. MJ only got 6 because that's all he felt like getting.
I think they could've won more, but I don't know about sweeping the decade. Nobody's ever done that. Magic went to 9 finals and couldn't win them all. And the two years the Bulls missed the finals, the Rockets were good. Olajuwon was a beast. It's really a shame we never got to see them go head-to-head.

And during their last run, they weren't the 96/97 team anymore. The Pacers went toe-to-toe with them in 98, that was an epic series. 99 was a shortened season though so that would've helped them.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:30 PM   #1865
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:32 PM   #1866
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boring ass game, NBA is a snooze fest until playoffs.
You are just an all around loser for all-sports I see.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:35 PM   #1867
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:36 PM   #1868
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You are just an all around loser for all-sports I see.
No, i'm just not a brainwashed pillowbiterggot like you that feeds into the media's BS. There's nothing about this game that's exciting, it's the same old stale all star weekend.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:37 PM   #1869
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Do you think stats alone could accurately compare say Oscar Robertson to Lebron or MJ?
Obviously not. Comparing their stats is certainly a hell of a lot more beneficial than comparing nothing at all, though.

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You know what I was talking about Montana\MJ never lost a SB\NBA Finals. That is one of the main reasons why they are considered GOAT's.
So basically you're setting the bar at a place LeBron can never reach. Convenient.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:39 PM   #1870
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So Dwight isn't even allowed to have fun at an AS game now without catching blame? He's kind of brought it on himself, but this is a bit ridiculous.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:42 PM   #1871
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So Dwight isn't even allowed to have fun at an AS game now without catching blame? He's kind of brought it on himself, but this is a bit ridiculous.
typical jewish white globalist new world order media ripping on the black dude and creating un-needed drama.
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Obviously not. Comparing their stats is certainly a hell of a lot more beneficial than comparing nothing at all, though.


So basically you're setting the bar at a place LeBron can never reach. Convenient.
My point and I belive zilla's point is that stats only tell part of the story and you agree.

It is not convenient it is just the standard we set for our superstars. There is people that think Elway is the GOAT but he lost 3 SB's and played like shit in them. Tom Brady has great stats and has been in 5 SB's, winning 3, but I wouldn't put him in the same class as Montana.
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You are just an all around loser for all-sports I see.
Not rugby, apparently.
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