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Old 02-18-2013, 01:33 PM  
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****Official **** You Mike Mayock Thread**** (OP UPDATED)

http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000140130/

The Kansas City Chiefs need a quarterback, but there aren't any this season that look like a top-ten talent, much less a No. 1 overall pick.

The way Mike Mayock sees it, the Chiefs should be looking to the offensive line for their first overall pick. And there are only four players worth the No. 1 overall pick in this draft for Kansas City: Alabama guard Chance Warmack, UNC guard Jonathan Cooper, Texas A&M tackle Luke Joekel, or Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher.

Mayock said on a conference call Monday that some people will say he's crazy to potentially take a guard at No. 1 overall, but Mayock says Warmack is the best player in this draft. So he doesn't see it as crazy at all.

In the end, Mayock believes the pick could come down to Joekel or Warmack. This is a draft where the top-shelf players don't stand apart too much, and there may not be a huge difference between picks 5 and 25. That makes it a tricky spot for the Chiefs.

Don't be surprised if Kansas City builds from the inside out, and finds their quarterback of the future later.



He gives the Chiefs 4 options at #1 and they're all offensive lineman? Go **** yourself bro

@Jacobs71: Here is what Mayock said on #Chiefs pick in full "Well, part of it depends on what they're going to do with free agency and Branden Albert."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think the answer to that, obviously, is going to give you the answer. Sitting where they are, let's face it, they need a QB."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"We don't know that there are a lot of people who think Geno Smith is in that ballpark."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't, but there are a lot of people that think he should be considered."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"When you look at what they're going to do, what are they going to do with Dwayne Bowe?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" Whoever the quarterback is, they need a wide receiver. And I think John Dorsey has to be thinking what is the big picture here?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I've got one, and I've got 34. What is the best combination of getting the most value out of that?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"And I think that offensive lineman at 1 is the most solid guy they can go with."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't care whether it's Warmack or Joeckel. People will tell me I'm crazy that a guard can't go No. 1."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think he's the best player in the draft, so I would argue that."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:" But either way, I think they've got to get an offensive lineman and come back at 33 and prepare to go with a QB or WR."

@Jacobs71: When I asked Mayock about who fits Reid's system at QB: " I think Matt Barkley makes a lot of sense."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" He's a guy as a junior at USC looked so much different than he did this year."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"With Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson, I think all three of those guys you have to go back and watch junior tape. "

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" So I think Barkley fits what he does. I think Ryan Nassib fits what he does."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson both can fit what he does."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"So of those, that group of guys of the top seven, eight quarterbacks, I think those are the guys that did it most efficiently."

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Old 02-18-2013, 02:25 PM   #46
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Warmack is real good, great feet. But Joeckel is a damn technician at LT. He's worthy of the #1.
And neither one will be largely responsible for winning games on the next level.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:25 PM   #47
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If the Chiefs take a G or LT at #1, it would be funny if everyone at the draft party stood up and left.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:25 PM   #48
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If they're going to take a lineman, he better DOMINATE - man among boys - from day 1. Warmack has a much better chance of being that then either Joeckel or Star.
I'm not sure Star has a place on the team either. He seems like a 4-3 DT, not a 3-4 DE. I haven't seem anything that really projects him to a NT in a 3-4 either and we just took Poe at #11 last year (I suppose they could move Poe to DE).

I'm not an expert or anything, but Star reminds me of Stephen Paea, who the Bears took in the second round a couple of years ago. A nice DT but not worth the #1 pick by any means.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:26 PM   #49
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QB, LT, DL
I just don't see a DL worth that pick, especially if you think a QB isn't worth it.


If they re sign Albert, I'd say it's pretty much a lock we are taking a Qb there.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:26 PM   #50
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we'll draft Womack, move him to LT; sign Albert and put him back at his natural position at Guard. / True Fan.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:26 PM   #51
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They'll tack Millner before Warmack.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:26 PM   #52
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I say 10% or less. Andy Reid isn't retarded.
He took a 28 year old guard in the first round a couple years ago.
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I'm not sure Star has a place on the team either. He seems like a 4-3 DT, not a 3-4 DE. I haven't seem anything that really projects him to a NT in a 3-4 either and we just took Poe at #11 last year (I suppose they could move Poe to DE).

I'm not an expert or anything, but Star reminds me of Stephen Paea, who the Bears took in the second round a couple of years ago. A nice DT but not worth the #1 pick by any means.
Star is Tyson Jackson part 2. **** him.
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He took a 28 year old guard in the first round a couple years ago.
Not with the #1 pick.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:31 PM   #56
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I just can't get on board with Milliner
Or, and if it could work I'd like it, trade down, although I think most teams don't love anyone either.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:34 PM   #57
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He took a 28 year old guard in the first round a couple years ago.
Like 23rd overall. Not even close to a similar situation.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:35 PM   #58
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Or, and if it could work I'd like it, trade down, although I think most teams don't love anyone either.
If we could say, trade down to 4 with Philly, get Foles and some picks, and then take Milliner, that would be ideal but it would be INFINITELY better than some of the alternatives being discussed.
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He took a 28 year old guard in the first round a couple years ago.
At 23. And he was 26.
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