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The House to discuss the threat of asteroids.
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![]() http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...hreat-to-earth House committee to hold hearing on asteroid threat By Jonathan Easley 02/15/13 12:07 PM ET The House Science, Space and Technology Committee will hold a hearing on how to “better identify and address asteroids that pose a potential threat to Earth,” Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas) said in a statement on Friday. The announcement comes after a meteorite exploded in a massive blast above Siberia that damaged buildings, houses and cars and injured about 1,000 people on Friday. "The light was so intense that it completely illuminated the courtyard of our apartment block," said Sergei Zakharov, head of the Russian Geographical Society in Chelyabinsk, according to The Wall Street Journal. "The sound, the shock wave came around six minutes later. No one could understand what had happened. I'd compare it to the explosion of a large flare bomb." The blast was unrelated to another rare meteorological event on Friday — a 150-foot-long asteroid passed within 17,000 miles of Earth. It’s the closest encounter of its kind on record, passing within the orbit of many man-made satellites. “Today’s events are a stark reminder of the need to invest in space science,” Smith said. “Asteroid 2012 DA14 passed just 17,000 miles from Earth, less than the distance of a round trip from New York to Sydney. And this morning, a much smaller meteorite hit near the Russian city of Chelyabinsk, damaging buildings and injuring hundreds." "Developing technology and research that enable us to track objects like Asteroid 2012 DA14 is critical to our future," Smith said. "We should continue to invest in systems that identify threatening asteroids and develop contingencies, if needed, to change the course of an asteroid headed toward Earth.” |
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Wouldn't it be like an insurance? I'm sure your house or car insured. The probability that you need them aren't great. Isn't it the same with this. Chances that you will be personally hit aren't great but a hit by a meteroite could have devastating effects.
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Looks like the United Nations is discussing the threat of asteroids, too. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/50840661/n.../#.USJAKbvzckg Quote:
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No, not really. Earth has already had several extinction level asteroid impacts. You may think that not much can be done, but you'd be wrong. Saying research into this is a waste of resource is short sighted and dangerous. Research such as this is done for future generations. But that doesn't mean it's of no value today.
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That's kinda what I was saying.
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http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/02/russia-meteor/
There Is No Way to Stop Space Rocks From Hurtling to Earth and Killing You By Spencer Ackerman 02.15.13 10:13 AM Space is out to kill you. There is no way to stem its aggression. But it’s usually an incompetent killer, so don’t freak out. The last thing residents of Chelyabinsk, in central Russia, expected on Friday was to see a flaming fireball from the heavens hurtle towards their industrial city. On-scene accounts make it seem like an angry deity enacted His vengeance for some unknown slight. The meteor was actually unrelated to the 2012 DA14 asteroid near Earth, according to NASA. (Which, by the way, you can watch soar by.) But 1,000 Russians were injured from the concussive blast and flying, shattered glass. All the advanced air defenses that humanity has invested in? The interceptor missile that are (sometimes) able to stop an adversary missile from impacting? The early-warning monitoring systems that are supposed to give humanity enough time to plan a response? They are useless, useless against a meteorite onslaught. Do not believe the stories about the Russians shooting the cosmic rock down. “The reason, simply put, is physics,” explains Brian Weeden of the Secure Earth Foundation, a former captain and missile expert in the U.S. Air Force Space Command. Asteroids orbit the sun like Earth does, and occasionally our orbits intersect, causing the rocks to enter the atmosphere as flaming meteors screaming toward impact. They are not flying like airplanes and missiles that air defenses target. Shooting them will not change their speed or trajectory — at best, a missile impact might change its direction somewhat or shatter it into more pieces. But let’s say that happens. What then? “Now you’ve got a shotgun blast instead of a single shot,” Weeden explains, and “all those pieces are still traveling in the same direction and at the same velocity.” Gulp. Still, it’s vanishingly unlikely that air defense systems would be able to even make the shot. The Chelyabinsk meteor was traveling at something like 32,000 miles per hour. (A 747′s typical cruising speed? 567 miles per hour.) By the time you notice it, it’s too late to stop it. Not that you would notice it. Meteors like the one in Chelyabinsk are going to pass through the detection systems that humans have. Telescopes pointed to space are only going to be able to see a ginormous asteroid. Missile warning and air-defense radars run via software that ignores things that aren’t planes and missiles. And the eyes of U.S. military satellites are pointed the wrong way — down toward Earth. The Defense Support Program satellite constellation, for instance, is looking for launches of things like intercontinental ballistic missiles that threaten America, using infrared. But the asteroid is cold until it enters the atmosphere. And in this case, the asteroid was relatively small, maybe eight to ten tons. The asteroid tracking networks — run by NASA, the European Space Agency and bands of amateurs — are looking for massive space rocks, some the size of moons, and calculating their potential intersection with Earth. That process can provide early warning — years and decades out. Something small enough to slip into the atmosphere like this one is unlikely to be detected. And there’s not a weapon forged by man that could do something about it anyway, short of calling Bruce Willis. But there’s good news. Space rocks are lousy shots. The Earth is mostly ocean and uninhabited areas. The frequency of meteorite impacts is correlated with size, Weeden explains, and the smaller the meteorites, the more often they land. “But the places where people are is actually pretty small,” he says. Even the injuries that occurred at Chelyabinsk were mostly concussions and accidents from shattered glass, not from the meteorite itself. Close but no cigar, space: “Your odds of dying by a meteor are pretty damn small. You’re thousands of times more likely to die by car on way to work.” Believe it or not, there is actually a United Nations team convening to spare Earth from the ravages of space. Weeden just met with it in Vienna a few days ago, and its meetings are ongoing. And it has a plan. Within the United Nations Special Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space is a subcommittee on science and technology. That subcommittee has an ad hoc advisory team of dozens of space experts from around the world who try to “figure out how to coordinate detections, warnings and response, and possible deflection” of asteroids that might impact Earth, Weeden says. They’re mostly focused on the big asteroids, the ones larger than 100 meters in diameter or bigger. And among their ideas — the one that “physics says should work,” in Weeden’s phrase — is something called a Gravity Tractor. The idea is to launch a spaceship near a nefarious asteroid. The presence of the spaceship’s inherent gravitational field should impact the asteroid’s, to the point where it might be able to shift the asteroid’s trajectory and get it to avoid the path of Earth’s celestial journey. It’s untested — and apparently it won’t even host astronauts: it’s unmanned, so Bruce Willis can take a knee. But Weeden has faith the Gravity Tractor will work. Here’s a simulation. (It’s worth mentioning that other proposals include Armageddon-style nuclear detonations, laser-beam pushes and even attaching a big-ass cord to pull the thing out of the way.) Oh, and the name of that United Nations advisory group that came up with the Gravity Tractor? It’s called Action Team 14. “They’re not superheroes,” Weeden helpfully clarifies. But right now, superheroes are the only defense Earth has against falling space rock. |
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The world has no real defense against killer meteors (but it has one very good idea) Posted by Max Fisher on February 15, 2013 at 3:31 pm In 1908, an asteroid ripped through the Earth’s atmosphere somewhere over Tunguska, a remote region of Russia’s vast Siberian interior. Like the smaller meteor that sent a shock wave over Chelyabinsk on Friday, breaking apart catastrophically under its own weight and 10 kilometers per second speed, the Tunguska object appears to have exploded mid-air. The force of it leveled 500,000 acres of Siberian forests and may have been 1,000 times as powerful as the atomic bomb dropped over Hiroshima. The odds of a similar object hitting a populated area are very low, but they are not zero. And the United States, like the rest of the world, is largely defenseless if that should happen. Wired’s Spencer Ackerman explains that “all the advanced air defenses that humanity has invested in” are “useless, useless” against meteorites. The really dangerous space debris, like the Tunguska object, are too heavy and move way too quickly to be simply shot down. Hitting a giant meteor with a missile is only going to change its trajectory or shatter it into pieces, which could make it even more dangerous. “Now you’ve got a shotgun blast instead of a single shot,” a former U.S. Air Force Space Command office tells Ackerman. Fortunately, there is an idea for a defense – an idea that Ackerman called a “gravity tractor” and has been around for at least a few years under similar names. It turns out that you don’t need to detonate a nuclear warhead on an asteroid to change its course, you just need to place a heavy object nearby to divert its course. If the gravity tractor ideas sounds crazy, it’s only because Hollywood has been feeding us junk science on meteors for years now. “Many people think of a planet as a vacuum cleaner whose gravity sucks in everything in its vicinity,” Gregg Easterbrook explained in a great 2008 story for The Atlantic. But it turns out that space objects are more likely to be a slingshot away from the Earth by its gravity; actually hitting the Earth requires the meteor to slip into a relatively tiny window, called a “keyhole.” And knocking it away from that keyhole should be relatively easy. Here’s Easterbrook: Quote:
But there is one piece of bad news. “When it comes to killer comets,” Easterbrook writes, “you’ll just have to lose sleep over the possibility of their approach; there are no proposals for what to do about them.” That threat, however remarkably minuscule, puts other international security problems, the vast majority of which are preventable, in a little bit of perspective, doesn’t it? |
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Here's a video showing it. ~8:55 mark, he talks about how we've already altered the course of a comet. This is a really good video for those thinking this is a waste of resources and we can't actually do anything about it....
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