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Old 02-18-2013, 09:57 AM  
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Universal pre-K for American children: why are we not doing this?

We have extensive evidence that pre-K education programs make a huge difference in the early learning trajectories of children (David Brooks accurately cites the the Perry and Abecedarian projects as stunning successes). There's evidence that it could reduce poverty and increase the most important aspect of America: social mobility. Social mobility is why America is America -- and universal pre-K helps make that possible.

Head Start has had a difficult time showing the same kind of successes, but many states have supplemented and refined it to actually produce effective results. The Obama administration's plan is to enhance these state improvements by providing funding, and measuring their results -- in other words, it's a perfectly federalist solution. States do all the work, the federal government measures their success and buttresses their efforts financially.

The key: score some incremental improvement through state experimentation. That improvement early in life becomes a key advantage later in life.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/15/op....html?hp&_r=1&

When Families Fail
By DAVID BROOKS
Published: February 14, 2013

Today millions of American children grow up in homes where they don’t learn the skills they need to succeed in life. Their vocabularies are tiny. They can’t regulate their emotions. When they get to kindergarten they’ve never been read a book, so they don’t know the difference between the front cover and the back cover.

But, starting a few decades ago, we learned that preschool intervention programs could help. The efforts were small and expensive, but early childhood programs like the Perry and Abecedarian projects made big differences in kids’ lives. The success of these programs set off a lot of rhapsodic writing, including by me, about the importance of early childhood education. If government could step in and provide quality preschool, then we could reduce poverty and increase social mobility.

But this problem, like most social problems, is hard. The big federal early childhood program, Head Start, has been chugging along since 1965, and the outcomes are dismal. Russ Whitehurst of the Brookings Institution summarizes the findings of the most rigorous research: “There is no measurable advantage to children in elementary school of having participated in Head Start. Further, children attending Head Start remain far behind academically once they are in elementary school. Head Start does not improve the school readiness of children from low-income families.”

Fortunately, that is not the end of the story. Over the past several years, there’s been a flurry of activity, as states and private groups put together better early childhood programs. In these programs, the teachers are better trained. There are more rigorous performance standards. The curriculum is better matched to the one the children will find when they enter kindergarten.

These state programs, in places like Oklahoma, Georgia and New Jersey, have not been studied as rigorously as Head Start. There are huge quality differences between different facilities in the same state or the same town. The best experts avoid sweeping conclusions. Nonetheless, there’s a lot of evidence to suggest that these state programs can make at least an incremental difference in preparing children for school and in getting parents to be more engaged in their kids’ education.

These programs do not perform miracles, but incremental improvements add up year by year and produce significantly better lives.

Enter President Obama. This week he announced the most ambitious early childhood education expansion in decades. Early Thursday morning, early education advocates were sending each other ecstatic e-mails. They were stunned by the scope of what Obama is proposing.

But, on this subject, it’s best to be hardheaded. So I spent Wednesday and Thursday talking with experts and administration officials, trying to be skeptical. Does the president’s plan merely expand the failing federal effort or does it focus on quality and reform? Is the president trying to organize a bloated centralized program or is he trying to be a catalyst for local experimentation?

So far the news is very good. Obama is trying to significantly increase the number of kids with access to early education. The White House will come up with a dedicated revenue stream that will fund early education projects without adding to the deficit. These federal dollars will be used to match state spending, giving states, many of whom want to move aggressively, further incentive to expand and create programs.

But Washington’s main role will be to measure outcomes, not determine the way states design their operations. Washington will insist that states establish good assessment tools. They will insist that pre-K efforts align with the K-12 system. But beyond that, states will have a lot of latitude.

Should early education centers be integrated with K-12 school buildings or not? Should the early childhood teachers be unionized or certified? Obama officials say they want to leave those sorts of questions up to state experimentation. “I’m just about building quality,” Education Secretary Arne Duncan told me. The goal is to make the federal oversight as simple as possible.

That’s crucial. There’s still a lot we don’t know about how to educate children that young. The essential thing is to build systems that can measure progress, learn and adapt to local circumstances. Over time, many children will migrate from Head Start into state programs.

This is rude to say, but here’s what this is about: Millions of parents don’t have the means, the skill or, in some cases, the interest in building their children’s future. Early childhood education is about building structures so both parents and children learn practical life skills. It’s about getting kids from disorganized homes into rooms with kids from organized homes so good habits will rub off. It’s about instilling achievement values where they are absent.

President Obama has taken on a big challenge in a realistic and ambitious way. If Republicans really believe in opportunity and local control, they will get on board.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:10 AM   #61
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If my five year old came home with a book on global warming, it would be hand-delivered (with force) back to the face of the idiot who gave him the book.
I would do the same thing. But the wife in that family wants to use their public school still. This is a family with well over $100k in income. They're right-wing too. Daddy's a member of the NRA even. They're gonna pay for it in other ways.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:13 AM   #62
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If my five year old came home with a book on global warming, it would be hand-delivered (with force) back to the face of the idiot who gave him the book.
I feel the same way about books about soil, rocks, and photosynthesis. Those books should be banned. Do you have other scientific subjects you loath?
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:14 AM   #63
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I would do the same thing. But the wife in that family wants to use their public school still. This is a family with well over $100k in income. They're right-wing too. Daddy's a member of the NRA even. They're gonna pay for it in other ways.
Did you make this family up, or just the part where the five year old comes home in a zombie-like daze murmuring "Obama. Obama. Obama?"
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:30 AM   #64
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I feel the same way about books about soil, rocks, and photosynthesis. Those books should be banned. Do you have other scientific subjects you loath?
You don't have to agree with the Democrats on every issue, dude. Think for yourself once in a while.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:32 AM   #65
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You don't have to agree with the Democrats on every issue, dude. Think for yourself once in a while.
Global warming or climate change isn't about Republicans and Democrats. Maybe that's your problem. If your 5 year old brings home a book about it, you should probably read it.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:34 AM   #66
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Of course not. This, imo, is about shaping minds earlier for PC—not true education.

True Story Example: A Kindergarten in Freeport Maine.
Five year old comes home saying during the election:
"I don't want that white guy to win."
Followed by another day:
"Obama. Obama. Obama."
Another day, brings a book home on Global Warming. ( Only the parent reads it substituting the words GW with "global cooling."
I don't trust the Progressive Left when they make claims this is to better educate children. Education, today, is about political indoctrination. It's already been happening here. Just as many Republicans are blind to what is going on in education.
I totally believe this "True Story."
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:01 AM   #67
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Global warming or climate change isn't about Republicans and Democrats. Maybe that's your problem. If your 5 year old brings home a book about it, you should probably read it.
Yet you took the democrat side, yet again, for the 18,000th straight time. Think for yourself!
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:04 AM   #68
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Yet you took the democrat side, yet again, for the 18,000th straight time. Think for yourself!
Like I said, it's not the Democratic side. I'm not sure how to make that any clearer, so I'll just turn the table on you: you're taking the Republican once again. Think for yourself!

No, either climate change is happening or it is not. It doesn't matter if a Republican believes in it or a Democrat believes in it that makes it true or false. That's completely independent of the issue.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:17 AM   #69
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So, would all pre-K kids qualify, or only ones that fall below some income level? Or are they saying that would be up to the states?
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So, would all pre-K kids qualify, or only ones that fall below some income level? Or are they saying that would be up to the states?
Yes. and No. But its free
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I think the government should invest in a bunch of stuff if there are tangible results.

In this particular case, there definitely are.
DOE is doing an incredible job right?
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I know! Talk about being in utter and complete denial.
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If they only had a reasonable budget but the right won't fund it.
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If they only had a reasonable budget but the right won't fund it.
We're bankrupt but it doesn't stop the Progressive Left to keep spending. Absolute insanity at its finest. These are the people who will be socializing other people's children too.
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Direckshun wants to destroy the pre-K school system too? Government has done such a great job of destroying the regular school system, why not get their grimy fingers in the pre-K system?
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