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Old 02-19-2013, 12:34 PM  
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Tim Tebow supports gay-hating pastor

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Agreeing to speak at intolerant church is Tebow's greatest sin


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Tim Tebow is about to make the biggest mistake of his life.

Tebow has agreed to speak at a hateful Baptist preacher's church, an evangelical cretin named Robert Jeffress who does the work of the Lord sort of like Westboro Baptist in Topeka, Kan., does the work of the Lord.

Not at all.

Jeffress isn't as bad as Westboro. He doesn't send his flock to funerals of U.S. soldiers and have his sheep yell awful things like, "God hates pillowbiters." But he comes close. Too close. He believes, he has said, "It's a fact that [AIDS is] a gay disease so there's a reasonable reason to exclude gays from the military."

Jeffress is a bad guy. He says Jews and homosexuals are going to hell. He says the Catholic church is a satanic cult. He says Islam "is a religion that promotes pedophilia -- sex with children."

Mormons? They're going to hell, too, but Jeffress was willing to overlook that and promote Mitt Romney over Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election because Obama, Jeffress said, "is paving the way for the future reign of the Antichrist."

"I am not saying that President Obama is the Antichrist, I am not saying that at all," Jeffress said in November. "One reason I know he's not the Antichrist is the Antichrist is going to have much higher poll numbers when he comes."

Tim Tebow supports this man.

More than supports him, Tebow is going to throw his weight -- and it is considerable; we're talking about Tim Tebow for God's sake -- behind this preacher by speaking at his church in Dallas in April.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:58 PM   #31
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Didn't Obama oppose gay marriage when he was President?
Yeah, but. That's different. He's a Democrat.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:00 PM   #32
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I know, how hateful of them.
Well, its not very nice. But that's what they believe.

My point was that it appears the preacher in the original post (and Tebow) are getting some shit for this "non-Christians are going to hell" belief, when in fact, that what ALL Christians believe. Or they are supposed to. Or I guess they aren't really Christian. In which case, they will also be going to hell.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:00 PM   #33
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DIdn't he sit for years in a church with a race-baiting, anti-american Pastor?
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:01 PM   #34
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Well, its not very nice. But that's what they believe.

My point was that it appears the preacher in the original post (and Tebow) are getting some shit for this "non-Christians are going to hell" belief, when in fact, that what ALL Christians believe. Or they are supposed to. Or I guess they aren't really Christian. In which case, they will also be going to hell.
Yeah, pretty much.

I get tired of people acting like Christianity is all rosy and happy. The central idea is very cut and dry.
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It's ok, religious leaders that have a history of spouting hateful messages can still get employment over at MSNBC.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:02 PM   #36
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Yeah, but. That's different. He's a Democrat.
What's that got to do with going to hell? Although if he is a Christian as he says, I suppose he believes that all non-believers like me are going to hell.
Just like every "Christian" president we've ever had.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:04 PM   #37
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What's that got to do with going to hell? Although if he is a Christian as he says, I suppose he believes that all non-believers like me are going to hell.
Just like every "Christian" president we've ever had.
Yes, he does. That's why Christians want to covert non-believers. They don't WANT them to go to hell.
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Obama says there are "many paths" to heaven. So i don't think that includes any damnation. (Unless you're a southern white "racist" conservative republican - Obama probably thinks they're going to hell)
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Well, its not very nice. But that's what they believe.

My point was that it appears the preacher in the original post (and Tebow) are getting some shit for this "non-Christians are going to hell" belief, when in fact, that what ALL Christians believe. Or they are supposed to. Or I guess they aren't really Christian. In which case, they will also be going to hell.
There's a difference in the kind of language they use.
For instance, when someone like NewChief takes a liberal stance on an issue I normally consider his language to be conversational and not malice-filled. Then when a middle of the roader like yourself take the Democrat side I can usually count on the language to be sort of clownish and not to be taken too seriously.
The content of the messages might be in the same ballpark, but one message is spoken by someone that most people can respect, the other by someone most people dismiss as a sort of jackass.
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Obama says there are "many paths" to heaven. So i don't think that includes any damnation. (Unless you're a southern white "racist" conservative republican - Obama probably thinks they're going to hell)
So it sounds like he's theist or spiritual instead of Christian
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What's that got to do with going to hell? Although if he is a Christian as he says, I suppose he believes that all non-believers like me are going to hell.
Just like every "Christian" president we've ever had.
I responded to a post. Not sure where your confusion comes in.
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Obama says there are "many paths" to heaven. So i don't think that includes any damnation. (Unless you're a southern white "racist" conservative republican - Obama probably thinks they're going to hell)
So then he's not a Christian. Which means I'll see him in hell.
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So then he's not a Christian. Which means I'll see him in hell.
Maybe you'll see him - if your eyes aren't poked out by red-hot pokers
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There's a difference in the kind of language they use.
For instance, when someone like NewChief takes a liberal stance on an issue I normally consider his language to be conversational and not malice-filled. Then when a middle of the roader like yourself take the Democrat side I can usually count on the language to be sort of clownish and not to be taken too seriously.
The content of the messages might be in the same ballpark, but one message is spoken by someone that most people can respect, the other by someone most people dismiss as a sort of jackass.
I'm not sure what to make of most of that gibberish, but it didn't seem very Christian-like. Or maybe it was.

They can use whatever kind of langauge they wish--it still comes down to the same thing. Non-believers are going to hell. Sure, some keep that thought more private than others. Doesn't make them any different in reality.
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