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Old 02-14-2013, 03:52 PM  
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Do you support the outright ban of "assault" rifles?

Simple...

yes or no.

This thread brought to you by a comment in DC stating we would be surprised by how few people in DC would support the ban. Figured we might as well get numbers.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:47 AM   #451
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:48 AM   #452
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The answer to the drunk driving problem is similar to the answer for the ammo magazine problem. We shouldn't ban cars or alcohol, but we should restrict them for everyone. I think that if all cars were mechanically restricted to 10 mph and no alcoholic beverage could have more than 2% alcohol, we'd soon see a sizable dip in drunk driving tragedies. It might be an inconvenience to the overwhelmingly vast majority of responsible drivers and responsible drinkers, but (all together now) wouldn't it be worth it?
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:49 AM   #453
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:49 AM   #454
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Well by that logic, neither of us are "really worried" about drunk driving, are we.
Considering I'm not the one arguing to restrict a person's rights, I don't see where you get this "we" shit from?
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:52 AM   #455
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Considering I'm not the one arguing to restrict a person's rights, I don't see where you get this "we" shit from?
Your argument implied that the amount of time Person A spends discussion Issue X directly displays how much Person A cares about Issue X.

Direckshun spends all this time talking about assault weapons, and doesn't spend any time talking about traffic safety laws. Therefore, he cares too much about assault weapons and doesn't care about traffic safety laws.

It's a fallacious argument.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:57 AM   #456
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I support doing something about it. I'm just talking about assault weapons specifically because that's what this thread is/was about.
If you support a ban on assault rifles then you aren't doing something about it. You are telling your politicians that you accept their bullshit as an appropriate response to an issue that concerns you. You are eating shit and asking for seconds.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:58 AM   #457
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The difference is that freedom isn't, and has never been absolute in this country. Nor should it ever be -- absolute freedom would be chaos.

So like everybody else, you favor moving the needle a bit away from absolute freedom in order to insure some order.

I just favor moving the needle farther.
You favor moving the needle to the point where the collective is being punished for the actions of a minority. That ceases to be freedom of any kind at that point.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:04 AM   #458
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If you support a ban on assault rifles then you aren't doing something about it.
I'm attempting to make killing people in mass shootings more difficult.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:05 AM   #459
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Your argument implied that the amount of time Person A spends discussion Issue X directly displays how much Person A cares about Issue X.

Direckshun spends all this time talking about assault weapons, and doesn't spend any time talking about traffic safety laws. Therefore, he cares too much about assault weapons and doesn't care about traffic safety laws.

It's a fallacious argument.
No, it just points out that you are full of shit and just parroting the extreme left wing Obama points that were handed to you
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:05 AM   #460
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You favor moving the needle to the point where the collective is being punished for the actions of a minority. That ceases to be freedom of any kind at that point.
"Freedom" isn't binary. It exists on a scale.

Freedom is regularly restricted for the concerns of society at large. That doesn't mean it ceases to exist. It's just less absolute.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:06 AM   #461
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No, it just points out that you are full of shit and just parroting the extreme left wing Obama points that were handed to you
In what way?
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:10 AM   #462
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I'm attempting to make killing people in mass shootings more difficult.
arming the masses could do that too

or give everyone body armor

or ban psychos from life

or whatever other ridiculous plan you can think of
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I'm attempting to make killing people in mass shootings more difficult.
You are doing nothing of the kind.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:11 AM   #464
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arming the masses could do that too
That will lead to more gun violence.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:12 AM   #465
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You are doing nothing of the kind.
I guess we disagree.

Man, this thread is running out of steam.
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