**** OFFICIAL 2012-2013 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ****

[ArrowheadHawk]

#1 Seed South Region (31-5,14-4,5-0)

Roster

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1 Naadir Tharpe Guard 5-11 170 So.
2 Rio Adams Guard 6-3 190 Fr.
3 Andrew White III Guard 6-6 210 Fr.
4 Justin Wesley Forward 6-9 220 RS Jr.
5 Jeff Withey Center 7-0 235 RS Sr.
10 Evan Manning Guard 6-3 170 Fr.
11 Tyler Self Guard 6-2 165 Fr.
15 Elijah Johnson Guard 6-4 195 Sr.
20 Niko Roberts Guard 5-11 175 Jr.
21 Christian Garrett Guard 6-3 185 So.
23 Ben McLemore Guard 6-5 195 RS Fr.
24 Travis Releford Guard 6-6 210 RS Sr.
31 Jamari Traylor Forward 6-8 220 RS Fr.
32 Zach Peters Forward 6-9 240 Fr.
33 Landen Lucas Forward 6-10 240 Fr.
34 Perry Ellis Forward 6-8 225 Fr.
40 Kevin Young Forward 6-8 190 Sr.

Non-Con Schedule

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Fri, Nov. 9 SE Missouri State at Kansas (W 74-55)
Tue, Nov. 13 Michigan St. at Kansas Atlanta, Ga. (L 64-67)
Thu, Nov. 15 UTC at Kansas (W 69-55)
Mon, Nov. 19 Washington State at Kansas Sprint Center (W 78-41)
Tue, Nov. 20 St. Louis at Kansas Sprint Center (W 73-59)
Mon, Nov. 26 SJSU at Kansas (W 70-57)
Fri, Nov. 30 Oregon State at Kansas (W 84-78)
Sat, Dec. 8 Colorado at Kansas (W 90-54)
Sat, Dec. 15 Belmont at Kansas (W 89-60)
Tue, Dec. 18 Richmond at Kansas (W 87-59)
Sat, Dec. 22 Kansas at Ohio St. (W 74-66)
Sat, Dec. 29 American at Kansas (W 89-57)
Sun, Jan. 6 Temple at Kansas (W 69-62)

Conference Schedule

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Wed, Jan. 9 Iowa State at Kansas (W 97-89 )
Sat, Jan. 12 Kansas at TT (W 60-46)
Mon, Jan. 14 Baylor at Kansas (W 61-44)
Sat, Jan. 19 Kansas at Texas (W 64-59)
Tue, Jan. 22 Kansas at Kansas State (W 59-55)
Sat, Jan. 26 Oklahoma at Kansas (W 67-54)
Mon, Jan. 28 Kansas at West Virginia (W 61-56)
Sat, Feb. 2 Okla. St. at Kansas (L 80-85)
Wed, Feb. 6 Kansas at TCU (L 55-62)
Sat, Feb. 9 Kansas at Oklahoma (L 66-72)
Mon, Feb. 11 Kansas State at Kansas (W 83-62)
Sat, Feb. 16 Texas at Kansas (W 73-47)
Wed, Feb. 20 Kansas at Okla. St. (W 68-67)
Sat, Feb. 23 TCU at Kansas (W 74-48)
Mon, Feb. 25 Kansas at Iowa State (W 108-96)
Sat, March 2 West Virginia at Kansas (W 91-65)
Mon, March 4 TT at Kansas (W 79-42)
Sat, March 9 Kansas at Baylor (L 58-81)

Post Season
Thu, March 14 TT at Kansas (W 91-63)
Fri, March 15 Iowa State at Kansas (W 88-73)
Sat, March 15 Kansas State at Kansas (W 70-54)
Fri, March 22 (16)Western Kentucky vs (1)Kansas (W 64-57)
Sun, March 24 (8)UNC vs (1)Kansas (W 70-58)
Fri, March 29 (4)Michigan at (1)Kansas Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, TX 6:37PM

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

X grew up with two Jayhawks as parents. Chose Memphis. You never can tell with these kids. Hard to get excited either way during recruitment.

I have an 8th grade grand son starting on the HS varsity that grew up in my house, a Jayhawk fan until 2 years ago. Now all of a sudden he's a Louisville Cardinal fan? A baby Pinto bean ?

It's usually just kid's visions change for some stupid reason, a friend,team's logo, etc. In this case, a friend that moved away back to Louisville where the boy says he wants to go and hang out with him again.

I have another 4 years to change his mind, that friend is living a hard life now and separation may come easily or could draw him near.

[Bo's Pelini]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

I have an 8th grade grand son starting on the HS varsity that grew up in my house, a Jayhawk fan until 2 years ago. Now all of a sudden he's a Louisville Cardinal fan? A baby Pinto bean ?

It's usually just kid's visions change for some stupid reason, a friend,team's logo, etc. In this case, a friend that moved away back to Louisville where the boy says he wants to go and hang out with him again.

I have another 4 years to change his mind, that friend is living a hard life now and separation may come easily or could draw him near.

I hope he goes to Louisville wins them 4 titles


Then becomes a millionare in the nba.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

I have an 8th grade grand son starting on the HS varsity that grew up in my house, a Jayhawk fan until 2 years ago. Now all of a sudden he's a Louisville Cardinal fan? A baby Pinto bean ?

It's usually just kid's visions change for some stupid reason, a friend,team's logo, etc. In this case, a friend that moved away back to Louisville where the boy says he wants to go and hang out with him again.

I have another 4 years to change his mind, that friend is living a hard life now and separation may come easily or could draw him near.

8th grader playing Varsity? How goes a MS kid play HS ball?

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

8th grader playing Varsity? How goes a MS kid play HS ball?

I was wondering that as well.

[ROYC75]

As for Ellis ?

Some talented kids have the ability to excel at the next level after HS BB. Some do not, they hit a rut, after not playing against elite competition in HS, getting lazy within their game thinking they are already good enough for college to find they are lacking the mind set as much as skill set.

The good part is , they are talented enough and can be taught the next level if they are interested in doing so. Their attitude makes the difference in getting to the next level of competition.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

this wasn't around when I was lawrence...

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/19...er-casbah.html

That's cool. A coworker was raving about the one in Topeka. I'll definitely have to check it out.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

As for Ellis ?

Some talented kids have the ability to excel at the next level after HS BB. Some do not, they hit a rut, after not playing against elite competition in HS, getting lazy within their game thinking they are already good enough for college to find they are lacking the mind set as much as skill set.

The good part is , they are talented enough and can be taught the next level if they are interested in doing so. Their attitude makes the difference in getting to the next level of competition.

From everything I've heard, Ellis has a great attitude. I really like this kid and I'm hoping he comes around. I'm pretty sure he will.

[Saul Good]

Ellis is going to be good.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I was wondering that as well.

Great coaching ( Me, Seriously, I just had a small part of this ) ,He is a very gifted kid, the talent level is there. We had to bring him along slowly to start the year off, get the skill set & mind set together with a faster pace of game. He's adjusted well, been starting now the last 7 games. The last 4 he has averaged a double double.

He dominated the Fr. level games, averaged double doubles on JV games.

He's 6'4",takes 1 step and dunks it, plays the 4 & 5 right now.

In KY, they let you play up in HS if you are good enough and can keep the grades up. Currently we have 3 kids off of our AAU team we travel with that are starters at their H S's and 2 others are playing Fr & JV games as starters. We have another 3 others that are Fr. starters & JV back ups, while 2 more are playing 8th grade.

Once you play up, you stay up all year, both AD's have to agree with the kid playing up.

This is BB only, the state will not allow you to play up in football.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by BWillie

SEC......one ranked team. Next best team only received 4 votes. Incredible conference.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

I hope he goes to Louisville wins them 4 titles


Then becomes a millionare in the nba.

He does have NBA dreams, I tell him 1 day at a time, it's still a pipe dream for a kid of his talent. Div I ball , Very good chance, he already has Div II scouts watching him since last year.

The kid has ability to play football at Div I level as well.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

I have an 8th grade grand son starting on the HS varsity that grew up in my house, a Jayhawk fan until 2 years ago. Now all of a sudden he's a Louisville Cardinal fan? A baby Pinto bean ?.

If your son's parents both played basketball and met at KU, your comparison would be a bit stronger. X was free to do what he wanted, but there were zero compelling reasons not to choose KU. Which he eventually did, thanks to Cal's departure.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

If your son's parents both played basketball and met at KU, your comparison would be a bit stronger. X was free to do what he wanted, but there were zero compelling reasons not to choose KU. Which he eventually did, thanks to Cal's departure.

Agreed, the only thing I can add to it was, he lived RCJH for the first 10 years of his life, the 2 years later other kids influence started to mettle his way of thinking. He started joking around about it with me as a dig telling me was going to go to Louisville. Now his BF moved away and moved back to Louisville and now Louisville has another calling reason to him.

A lot can change between now and 4 years later, I can live with just about any place but a few. It's not my call, it's his, but let me tell you, it would be hard as HELL if his choice is a few of them.

[KC_Connection]

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/web..._on_3p_defense

I aggregated the numbers over a five season period from 2008 through 2012. (Why five seasons? It’s long enough to filter out season-to-season noise, but short enough to maintain some continuity in coaches and players on each team.) So, for instance, Syracuse’s opponents attempted 4,164 three-pointers over that time. Based on their opponents’ 3P% from each season, their opponents would have been expected to make 1,444 of those attempts. The Orange’s opponents actually made 1,316, a difference of 128, or 3.06% of their total attempts. Using this method, here are the top ten 3P% defenses over the past five seasons…

Team Pct SD
Syracuse -3.06 -4.3
Arizona -3.24 -3.9
BYU -3.13 -3.8
Memphis -3.18 -3.7
Michigan St -2.92 -3.7
Louisville -2.98 -3.7
Kansas -2.82 -3.6
Florida St -2.88 -3.6
Georgetown -3.10 -3.6
Virginia Tech -2.77 -3.4

I’ve ranked the teams by standardizing their percentage differences. One reason to do this is so we can compare 3P% to 2P% defense on the same scale, which I’ll do momentarily. But it’s also marginally more scientific to rank teams by this value. Syracuse’s 3.06% difference occurred on over 1,200 more three point attempts than Georgetown’s 3.10% difference. Thus, it’s more meaningful, 4.3 standard deviations better than their opponents’ average 3P%.

While favorable luck is probably contributing to the statistical effectiveness of these defense, there’s some signal here, too. The impact of each of these defenses is real, and in the context of 3P%, it’s spectacular. If 3P% defense were truly random, we might expect one Division-I team to have an opponents’ 3P% worse than 3 SD’s from average. (If we had 347 people flip a coin a few thousand times, some would rank better at flipping heads than others. This doesn’t imply skill in flipping heads.) In this sample, there were 19 such teams. However, even the best teams are only producing about a 3% influence on opponents 3P%.

By comparison, let’s observe the best 2P% defenses over this five-season span.

Team Pct SD
Kansas -8.34 -14.2
UConn -7.58 -13.4
Kentucky -7.37 -12.8
Texas -6.03 -10.2
Florida St -6.10 -9.6
Louisville -5.73 -9.5
Memphis -5.53 -9.4
Miss St -5.38 -9.1
Gonzaga -5.11 -8.1
USC -5.18 -8.1

KU's been the best by far at 2PT defense over the last five years. Pomeroy also shows that they've been 7th best at 3PT defense over that time as well (although that's mostly a product of their 2 PT defense). His old conclusion about defenses having much more impact on 2PT% than 3PT% doesn't change in this analysis, though.

Basically, if you're a team that wants to upset KU, you'd be best served to just jack up a bunch of threes and hope for the best (or just hope they're sleepwalking like at TCU). But that shouldn't be much of a surprise to anybody here.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

....But that shouldn't be much of a surprise to anybody here.

I'll bet it will be a surprise to certain KU fans (Laz).