*****OFFICIAL Draft Geno Smith Thread*****

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[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Sorter

"Yes" as in I agree with this ****ing wall of text, Sorter or "Yes" bump your ****ing posts ripping Domer with logic?

I hope it is the first option.

Yes

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Yes

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Sorter

None of them made as many NFL style throws or showed as developed pocket presence as Geno did. That is the selling point for me. Those who try to riduclue the AR and think it is just a college system aren't up to date on how NFL teams are passing the ball. NE, GB, NO, Denver, Atlanta, Reid, Detroit, all use base AR principles in their play designs in both base and varied personnel. For example, plenty of teams I mentioned run "Mesh" and AR staple out of both base and other personnel. The Pats additionally, love to use the hitch/seam concept with is an airraid staple as well. The AirRaid isn't a gimmick and plenty of teams are using its concepts in the NFL. FFS, I made a huge post about the ****ing levels concept with Geno earlier. Am I really going to have to ****ing bump that?

Futhermore, teams are deliberately incorporating limited-playbook offenses (ie. the read option run) to help young QBs adjust quickly.

I was watching (or reading, I can't remember) a thing the other day where they charted EVERY ONE of RG3's throws last year. About 80% of them were 1-read and go. He actually progressed to his 2nd read about 10% of the time. You could literally count the plays with 3 reads or more on 1 hand.

[SNR]

No.

(What are we talking about again?)

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Futhermore, teams are deliberately incorporating limited-playbook offenses (ie. the read option run) to help young QBs adjust quickly.

I was watching (or reading, I can't remember) a thing the other day where they charted EVERY ONE of RG3's throws last year. About 80% of them were 1-read and go. He actually progressed to his 2nd read about 10% of the time. You could literally count the plays with 3 reads or more on 1 hand.

I know there is one that I can recall from memory from the first Dallas game in which he went to his 3rd read.

Honestly, it doesn't matter if he goes to his 1st or 2nd read if they're open. People get too caught up in "going to his 1st read" rather than looking at the D&D, formations, route design, and the defensive play. That's without knowing the playbook, playcall, audibles or game plan.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Sorter

It would have been better if detoxing hadn't posted while I was slowly typing.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Sorter

People get too caught up in "going to his 1st read" rather than looking at the D&D, formations, route design, and the defensive play.

Absolutely.

In today's NFL, just like in college, offenses are designed to get the ball out of the QBs hands QUICKLY.

I'd venture to guess that most QBs, even Peyton Manning, overwhelmingly favor their 1st read.

[Frosty]

It seems like if you are frequently going to your 2nd or 3rd read, it's because your #1 WR sucks.

[Mr. Pink]

Originally Posted by Frosty

It seems like if you are frequently going to your 2nd or 3rd read, it's because your #1 WR sucks.

Or in Matt Cassholes case, you can't throw 15 yards +

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

The official 1st runner up QB drafted #1 thread most be Wilson.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Sorter

I know there is one that I can recall from memory from the first Dallas game in which he went to his 3rd read.

Honestly, it doesn't matter if he goes to his 1st or 2nd read if they're open. People get too caught up in "going to his 1st read" rather than looking at the D&D, formations, route design, and the defensive play. That's without knowing the playbook, playcall, audibles or game plan.

Exactly.

A big part of a quarterbacks job is to study his opponents and to know the skills and limitations of his teammates.

During presnap reads, a quarterback is trying to assess what defense the other team is in and then identify the matchups.

That's why its ****ing retarded to try to clown Geno because he went with his first read a lot...the guy completed over 70% of his throws because he identified the opposing defense presnap and knew what matchup his WR would win.

That's a strength, not a weakness.

If the guy stayed with his first read a lot and was completing 57% of his throws...checking down a lot, taking a lot of sacks and forcing passes into doubles and getting the passes intercepted...that's a problem. That's what Matt Cassel did.

Geno is a cerebral quarterback and its funny to watch the media dumbasses that can't tell the difference.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Absolutely.

In today's NFL, just like in college, offenses are designed to get the ball out of the QBs hands QUICKLY.

I'd venture to guess that most QBs, even Peyton Manning, overwhelmingly favor their 1st read.

In his last year in Indy that he played, passes to Reggie Wayne got intercepted at a crazy rate because of just that.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Exactly.

A big part of a quarterbacks job is to study his opponents and to know the skills and limitations of his teammates.

During presnap reads, a quarterback is trying to assess what defense the other team is in and then identify the matchups.

That's why its ****ing retarded to try to clown Geno because he went with his first read a lot...the guy completed over 70% of his throws because he identified the opposing defense presnap and knew what matchup his WR would win.

That's a strength, not a weakness.

If the guy stayed with his first read a lot and was completing 57% of his throws...checking down a lot, taking a lot of sacks and forcing passes into doubles and getting the passes intercepted...that's a problem. That's what Matt Cassel did.

Geno is a cerebral quarterback and its funny to watch the media dumbasses that can't tell the difference.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Both.

God damnit. I'll find those posts either tonight or tomorrow.

Probably tomorrow though. I'm a lazy ****.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Mr. Pink

Or in Matt Cassholes case, you can't throw 15 yards +

In Cassel's case, he gave his second and third read completely amiss and immediately checked down. And sometimes, I'm pretty sure he actually skipped his first read while he was shitting his pants.