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Jan. 17, 2013 4:28 PM ET
By Jeff Goodman and Jeff Borzello

Watching a game, we all think we know the best way to score on Louisville or a couple of strategies to slow down Michigan. But what about the guys who get paid to figure out that stuff -- what do they think?

Over the next eight weeks, CBSSports.com college basketball writers Jeff Goodman and Jeff Borzello will go through the national championship contenders and attempt to answer that question. For each team, we will talk to four or five coaches who played them this season, and get in-depth insight into each title threat. How should you attack Duke? What’s Kansas' weakness? What concerns you about Indiana? We’ll find answers to that, and much more.

It starts this week with Duke.

Style of play:
"They put constant pressure on you -- both offensively and defensively. They pressure the ball and deny wings. [Mason] Plumlee flies down the floor, they get to the rim and kick it and shoot the 3. But the biggest thing they do is put pressure on you for all 40 minutes."

"They spread the court and shoot a ton of 3s. You've obviously got to worry about Plumlee inside, but the biggest thing with them is stopping them in transition -- the 3's and the run-outs from Plumlee. They also run ball-screens in halfcourt, and a couple of special plays for [Ryan] Kelly."

“It’s a lot of four-and-one with Plumlee. They’ll run a couple of sets, like [Seth] Curry off a baseline screen. They want to play fast; they want to play in transition, punishing you for bad shots and turnovers. Especially at Duke, when they make a 3, you think the roof is gonna come off. A 3 there is worse than a dunk. When they’re sitting there and able to make standing 3s by getting by you and pitching it out, that’s how they blow teams out.”

“Offensively, they spread you out, use a lot of pick and roll. And they have a dominant inside guy. They look to get out in transition, Cook does a good job of pushing it.”

Offensive strength:
"Three-point shooting, but the biggest difference from last year to this year is Plumlee and his development. When [Ryan] Kelly is out there, they have four guys on the floor who can all shoot the 3. They don't turn the ball over."

"Everyone has a role and they do it pretty well. Kelly is a stretch four-man, Curry comes off screens, [Rasheed] Sulaimon drives it and you've always got to worry about Plumlee. They share the ball. You've got to decide what to do with Plumlee, whether to double him or just play him straight up. Personally, we were more worried about the 3s."

“Utilizing shooters. They want to get by you and they don’t want to shoot tough 2s. They want to draw help, and find guys that are standing there shooting 3s. Plumlee is down there, cleaning it all up. I left the Duke game thinking he was the best player in the country. There’s nothing you can tell your post guys outside of just being as physical as you can be. Just keep hitting him. Wear him out on offense. If you double-team, he just dribbles around it. They want to get easy baskets, convert your turnovers and bad shots. They can go on an 8-0 run in 45 seconds. Offensively, they’re not really complicated as far as what they do.”

“You’ve got a guy like Plumlee, so you have to put extra attention on him. And he’s good one-on-one in the post. He improved his free-throw percentage. Or they set the screen with Cook, and he heads downhill to dump it off or kick it out.”

Key player:
"Plumlee. He's their best player, but he's also the only one that can score in the paint. You have to decide what to do with him. Do you play him straight-up, and not many teams have big men who can do that effectively, or do you double him -- and that leaves one of their shooters open? It's a dilemma."

"They've honestly got a few, but Plumlee is the key one. You have to decide how to play him -- and that changes everything you do."

“Plumlee is the key guy. Everything goes through him. They want him to touch the ball every time down the floor, just to see. Come help, he’ll kick it out. Go one-on-one, he’ll score. I definitely think Plumlee is their main guy.”

“Without a doubt, it’s Plumlee. He’s a four-year guy. You’ve got Plumlee who’s a senior, Kelly who’s a senior, Curry who’s a senior. Been through a lot of battles. And it starts with Plumlee.”

Primary weakness:
"They don't defensively rebound the ball very well. That's their one weakness. They have Plumlee, but Kelly is a finesse four-man. Teams that are able to match up with them up front physically have a chance to beat them. You have to beat them on the glass."

"Guarding the ball in ball-screens, especially Curry. Cook is a pretty good on-ball defender, but Curry is not. They switch all the time on defense, more than most teams, and you can really take advantage of a guy like Curry in ball-screens. Make him guard the ball."

“I think it’s their bench. Their bench didn’t scare us at all. Outside of Thornton, who I think is their best defender, I don’t think their bench is very good at all. They’re only playing to get the starters a rest; they’re not playing them to play them. Bench will catch up to them.”

“Those guys are used to playing long minutes, so I don’t think it’s the bench. Their biggest weakness is defensively. They try to hide the fact by taking you out of your offense. They deny, they pressure. But you can break them down.”

How to stop them:
"You've got to have a plan on how you're going to guard them. You can't play normal help because they'll shoot you out of the game. It depends on your personnel whether you double Plumlee down in the paint or just play him straight-up. Personally, I'd take my chances with him one-on-one and make sure I don't give their shooters easy looks."

"Stop them in transition. You need to make the decision to get back -- even if that means only sending one or two guys to the boards."

“Make them make tough 2s. We didn’t help on anybody. When the bench comes in, you can help off them – but not Thornton. No standing 3s. Can’t stand there and shoot a 3. Let him get in there and shoot a tough two, don’t let him kick it out. They just pound you. You have a shot at them if they don’t make a bunch of 3s. We told our team that Plumlee isn’t being stopped. He’s gonna get his 18 and 12, just be physical with him. Any chance you get a chance to hit him, hit him. Go duck him in.”

“Number one, you have to execute on the offensive end and make them work. If you give them transition opportunities, by taking quick shots or turning the ball over, you have to limit that. Number two, not putting them on the free-throw line. Play Plumlee one-on-one without fouling. Number three, get out on the shooters. Chase them around screens, force them inside the arc.”

Best way to score on them:

"You can't turn the ball over. You need to take care of the ball. You can run on them, but you've got to make the easy, simple play. The best way to score on them is to get Plumlee away from the basket, whether it's in a ball-screen or just with a big men who can step out and make mid-range shots. If you get him away from the basket, it's easier to score with Kelly or (Josh) Hairston in the paint."

"You need to make Plumlee defend. Go at him and try to get him in foul trouble. The glaring weakness, though, is Curry on the ball. They switch a lot, and you can also take advantage of Kelly having to defend a ball-screen and ultimately a point guard. He has the length, but it's a mismatch."

“They force you to play one-on-one. They’ve got long arms. Sulaimon is really good, Cook pressures the ball. You can’t spread them out and drive anymore. They make passing very difficult. You’ve gotta get out there and pass fake. I don’t think they’re great at defending ball-screens. How you score on them is patience. Be patient as possible in whatever you run. They force into taking quick, rushed shots. It’s two points for them on the other end, and that puts more pressure on you. Whatever you do, have patience. Get Plumlee away from the basket. They’re not real aggressive down low. You can go small against them.”

“You’ve gotta have guys who can make plays off the dribble, and that causes them a lot of problems. Kelly is good on the ball, but without him in there, you can move them around and drive the ball. Seth Curry isn’t a good defender. If you have a really good big man, that would help. You can throw him the ball in the post. The more you move the ball side to side, it breaks the defense down.”

Ultimate concern:
"Trying to guard them. They are a much better defensive team than they were last year, but they are a tough team to guard because they have so many weapons. They have a big man who can score with his back to the basket -- and all those shooters. These guys also just have "it." They understand what it takes to win and are used to taking everyone's best shot."

"Three-point shooting. They can really stretch it out and have multiple guys who can make them. If Cook is also making them, you're in trouble."

“Don’t let them beat you from 3. I don’t feel like stopping Plumlee beats them. Pressure them into driving. Make them beat you by two. If they’re getting 70 points, make it off 30 shots and 10 free throws. If they get more than seven or eight 3s, I don’t see them losing.”

“Transition. Not giving them easy baskets or wide-open 3s. Number two, guarding them inside. Make them play one-on-one.”

On improved chemistry:

"You can tell it's much better without Andre Dawkins and Austin Rivers. Rivers didn't want to guard. I'd much rather play last year's team than this year's. It's not even close."

"They've got tough-minded kids and I think Rivers screwed them up some. I don't think he ever bought in. This year everyone has bought in and that's part of the reason why they've been so good. It's not like they have such a dominating team in terms of talent."

“They’re pretty intact, especially those top six. Those guys have been together a little bit now. They’ve been together for three years, most of them. It was different last year. Their chemistry is much, much better. I don’t know if it was a focal point in the offseason, but watching last year against Lehigh, it was evident that Rivers was distracting everyone else. It was affecting everyone else in a negative way. I don’t see that this year.”

“When you’ve got three seniors who have been around and been through it, that’s a huge advantage. They didn’t have that last year.”

On how it changes without Ryan Kelly:

"I don't think they're a Final Four team without Kelly. They need him back. Most four-men struggle to get to Kelly. He's also tough in ball-screen because if you switch it, he can take guards in the post and score. If you don't switch it, he's difficult to get to. He makes a big difference."

"Without Kelly, you don't have to guard Hairston on the perimeter. It's just one less weapon. You can pack it in because Hairston can't shoot it."

“With Kelly out, he was a big part of our game plan. He’s a big guy that can put it on the floor, obviously shoot the ball. The defense might get better, aside from charges. Offensively, with Kelly, he’s such a good passer. He’s a 6-11 three-man, basically. Causes matchup problems. Their offense will hurt a little bit more. Every time he shoots it, you think it’s going in.”

“They’re going to play different from the sense of that he’s a stretch-four. Those other guys can’t shoot like him. Hairston can’t do that, and Jefferson isn’t a shooter. He was such an integral part of what they do.”

Leftovers:
"It's either him [Coach K] or John Wooden depending on how you want to evaluate it. No one has had more success than him or Wooden."

"Sulaimon isn't a great shooter - yet. But he guards well beyond his years He defends aggressively and is athletic."

“Be prepared to use your timeouts. You can’t let them go on runs. You’ve gotta keep yourself there. They’ve got these runs in them. It just won’t stop. It can get away from you real quick. Just settle down.”

“Jefferson is a three playing the four. Athletically, he can help them. Defend and rebound some, but offensively I don’t see him filling that void.”
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February 6, 2013 3:19 pm ET

By Jeff Borzello and Jeff Goodman

Watching a game, we all think we know the best way to score on Louisville or a couple of strategies to slow down Michigan. But what about the guys who get paid to figure out that stuff -- what do they think?

Over the next six weeks, CBSSports.com college basketball writers Jeff Goodman and Jeff Borzello will go through the national championship contenders and attempt to answer that question. For each team, we will talk to four or five coaches who played those contenders this season, and get in-depth insight into each title threat. How should you attack Duke? What's Kansas' weakness? What concerns you about Indiana? We'll find answers to that, and much more.

This week, we take a look at Kansas. (Past scouting reports – Duke | Louisville | Michigan)

Style of play

"Fast. They are so good in transition. They also have good balance on the interior and on the perimeter. But they play so fast, and they get easy buckets. They are also really good at guarding on the perimeter with guys like Travis Releford, Elijah Johnson and even Ben McLemore. With (Jeff) Withey and Kevin Young, they guard inside the arc as well as anyone."

"What jumps out is that they don't really have any weaknesses. They are so good defensively, and don't get screened. They get through screens, don't foul and Withey cleans everything up. They have four starters that are all as quick as your four guys, so it's tough to get penetration."

"Offensively, they play at an extremely fast pace. They run aggressive pick and rolls. If you turn it over, they fly it up the floor as fast as anyone. They turn turnovers into transition baskets. On the defensive end, they rely on ball pressure and contest shots. They get into your body and force you to drive it into [Jeff] Withey and he just blocks your shit."

“This year's team is more of a Big Ten style of team. He doesn't have dynamic scorers at multiple positions like he usually has, and his best player is a freshman. Bill knows if they want to make it a long way, McLemore is going to have to be the guy.”

Offensive strength

"Balance. They have it on the interior and also on the perimeter."

"They do a great job of moving the ball side to side, softening you up and then scoring. They don't run nearly as much high-low as they used to, but they don't turn it over and really move the ball from side to side until they get something. They are also as good as anyone in the country and converting steals into baskets."

“I think the fact that their perimeter guys can all dribble, pass and shoot. [Elijah] Johnson, [Travis] Releford, [Naadir] Tharpe and [Ben] McLemore can all do that. You can't help off them. They're opportunistic in transition, they get out and run off turnovers, long rebounds and blocked shots. And when they can't do that, they execute in the half-court.”

“Getting Ben McLemore going. When he plays well, they play well. Travis Releford is the key. He shoots 60 percent from the field, which is phenomenal. He's the glue guy offensively. Elijah's stats aren't great; he's been struggling with turnovers in the league. They don't have that guy they completely trust the ball.”

Key player

"The obvious choice is McLemore, but I think it's Elijah Johnson. When he plays well, they play well."

"That's a tough call, it really is. Withey is the reason they are so good defensively, but Releford is an unbelievable role guy. McLemore is an elite guy on the offensive end. I think it's probably Elijah Johnson because he hasn't been great this season -- and they need better point guard play."

“It's McLemore. He can score 30-something, and he hits big shots. He's their go-to-guy, the guy that they're going look for in the tournament, the guy they're going to run plays for. He can score 25-plus. The rest of the guys can go 18-20 on a good night, but he can really burn you for a big number.”

“Withey is the the guy defensively. He allows them to gamble defensively. He doesn't always block shots or alter shots, but just standing there is a big part of what he does. He sits back there and makes sure you know he's in there. A lot of blocks don't even come when he jumps.”

Primary weakness

"Point guard play. They can be casual with their turnovers."

"Elijah has been inconsistent in terms of taking care of the ball. Bill (Self) doesn't know what he's going to get from that spot and that's tough for a coach."

“Lack of depth and the fact that the power forward position is Kevin Young and Perry Ellis. They're just OK. Maybe that's why they're not as good as past years. The one thing they don't have this year is two dominant post players like Withey and [Thomas] Robinson. You can sit in and help off the second big.”

“When you beat them, you put Withey in help situations. When he's not there to show when guards come free of jump shots. Their weakness is he doesn't want to guard the ball, and they go through long periods where they can't score the ball. They usually have someone on the block that can score. Kevin Young isn't a post player, but they're quicker and faster with him on the floor.”

How to stop them

"Get back in transition. I think you have to make them make shots, especially from the perimeter."

"You need to take away their easy buckets. That's where they can kill you. You've got to disrupt them in the halfcourt, take away their ball reversal. But the key is getting back in transition because so many of their points come off turnovers."

“You have to keep them out of transition, because they're extremely effective that way. You can't give Withey angles near the rim, and you have to take away rhythm jumpers. If you do that, they can be pretty ordinary. But with the guys they have on the perimeter, it makes them extremely difficult to guard. You can't help off them.”

“Keep them out of the lane. When we played them, we didn't let them run any of their shit. When they let Elijah and Naadir go, and spread you out, they're tough to deal with. When they get into the dribble-handoff stuff, it's tough.”

Best way to score on them


"That's a good one since we weren't able to do it. Oklahoma State was able to offensive rebound, but it's going to take having a couple guys that have career performances because they are so good on the defensive end. They have perimeter defenders and Withey is tough down low."

"You need to have a big guy that can step out and shoot 3's, someone who can take Withey away from the basket. Let's face it: You're not going to get much at the rim, so you need to penetrate and kick -- and make shots from the perimeter."

“Try to find a way to get Withey away from the basket so he can't protect the rim. When he's near the rim and the guards are pressuring the ball on the perimeter, it's a tough recipe to beat. They're perimeter guys do a great job guarding the bounce, but you have to make Withey uncomfortable.”

“Best way to score on them is in transition, and ball-screens. Withey plays 30 minutes, but you have to push him into a ball-screen situation, and make Young guard Withey's man. Make Young guard the five in transition. Make your big rim-run. You want to make Withey help uphill. Make him come up and block it, so you can dump it off around him.”


Ultimate concern


"Can you score inside the arc? You have to rely on jump shots -- and you have to make sure they don't get out and run. There are plenty of concerns."

"You've gotta score. You can't take bad shots or turn it over, because they'll hurt you with points off turnovers -- and then it snowballs so fast."

“The one thing I keep going back to is they turn turnovers and long rebounds into easy baskets. You can't take quick shots and give them easy opportunities in transition. They bank on getting 20 points a night in transition; eliminate those.”

“I think you want to make them play faster with Withey. In the first five minutes at their place, deal with the Rock Chalk Jayhawk shit. You can't let them get on those big runs.”

On Bill Self

"One of the best coaches in the game of basketball. His teams guard the arc as well as anyone -- and they make 2's as well. They have a plan on both ends."

"People said they were going to be down last year and look what happened. He went to the title game. They said it again this year and look at what they're doing. His teams are so good defensively and they run their stuff every year. He makes adjustments that fit his personnel and one of his biggest strengths is grooming guys from role players into elite players. Look at guys like Thomas Robinson and Jeff Withey."

“I don't know another accomplishment in college basketball in the last 15 years that compares to what he's done in the Big 12. He's proven he can blend a lot of different guys with different backgrounds every year.”

“Last year was maybe his best job. Bill can not only manage talent, he can coach talent. He can manage egos and superstar talent, and is also able to coach that same talent. He doesn't take it easy on them; he calls them out. Some guys can't do that. Bill does a great job of that.”

On Ben McLemore



"He's incredibly talented and smooth. He's athletic and can also shoot it -- and can also offensive rebound. He also tries to buy into defending -- and he works hard at it. He can finish at the rim, hits big shots and I love his demeanor."

"He shoots it better than most people realized. The difficult thing is that because he shoots it well, guys play him close -- and he's quick and athletic enough to get by you. He's a matchup nightmare because you can't put a 6-foot-3 guy on him or a 6-foot-8 four-man. He's got good size and is really athletic."

“At 6-foot-5, with the way he can shoot the basketball and how complete he is and the way he rebounds the basketball. He gives them a go-to-guy. He was always a humble and coachable guy, and you can combine that with natural ability. It's just his daily approach to work and being coached.”

“I thought he was going to be really good. But he's special and could be a pro. He's at the point where he's extremely polished as an offensive player. And in his behavior, how he acts. For a guy who is going to be a lottery pick, his stock is going up because he's not acting a fool. He's a good teammate. But he's going to need those other guys, those three seniors. It depends on them. If those dudes struggles, Kansas is going to struggle. They have to help him get over the hump and get ready to play on a quick turnaround.”

Leftovers

“I don't think point guard is Elijah Johnson's most natural position, and Tharpe isn't ready.”

"Perry Ellis will be a first-team all-league guy next year. He's struggling and has had his ups and downs this year, but you watch. He'll be one of the best players in the Big 12 next year."

"Naadir Tharpe has come a long way. He couldn't play last season, but now he's playing a lot of point at the end of the game and Elijah moves to the two. He's really improved."

"I think it's going to take a gritty, dirty team to beat them in the NCAA tournament. I don't think a flashy team is beating them. Look at the teams who have beaten them so far -- Michigan State and an Oklahoma State team with one of the grittiest players in the country in Marcus Smart."

“They're confident about winning. No matter what the score is, they think they're going to win. In big spots, they've all already done that. They expect to win.”
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February 20, 2013 12:03 pm ET

By Jeff Borzello and Jeff Goodman

Watching a game, we all think we know the best way to score on Louisville or a couple of strategies to slow down Michigan. But what about the guys who get paid to figure out that stuff -- what do they think?

Over the next six weeks, CBSSports.com college basketball writers Jeff Goodman and Jeff Borzello will go through the national championship contenders and attempt to answer that question. For each team, we will talk to four or five coaches who played those contenders this season, and get in-depth insight into each title threat. How should you attack Duke? What's Kansas' weakness? What concerns you about Indiana? We'll find answers to that, and much more.

This week, we take a look at Florida. (Past scouting reports - Duke | Louisville | Michigan | Kansas | Indiana)

Style of play

“They're really reliant on efficiency from the 3-point line. They like to get out and push the basketball because when it comes down to it, they have three point guards starting. They push the ball and [Erik] Murphy is such a 3-point threat, so they spread you out. Defensively, they're really locked in.”

“Offensively, they've been very difficult to guard because there's a number of things that they do. They've got a four-man who can really stretch the floor, which is another thing you have to deal with. They present problems. Defensively, quite honestly, they're a lot better than they've been in past years.”

"They are as good of a passing team as I've seen in the country this year. The execution, their ball movement and spacing are always tremendous. They don't necessarily have a star, but they have so many good pieces. They stretch you with shooters, they are always driving and putting you in defensive rotations. They really share the ball."

"Fast. Up-tempo. They mix man-to-man and plenty of zone this year. They don't press as much now that [Will] Yeguete is out. But they play up-tempo and shoot a lot of 3's."

Offensive strength

“Donovan loves to have them shoot the 3-point shot. They have by far the best talent in the SEC, but they're also the most unselfish team in the SEC. They do a great job of passing the ball. When you look at [Kenny] Boynton now from where he was, you take what he's doing now, every day of the week.”

“They shoot the 3 really well. They've got such a variety of things, schematically, that they're doing. That's one issue. They've got really good players that they're doing it with. That's another issue. And three, they can stretch the floor. On top of all that, they run their offense in a way that's full-steam. They don't just play around. When they go, they go hard. They'll leave you in the dust.”

"Their ability to shoot the 3 is obvious. They can really play in space and get the ball moving. They are so unselfish."

"Shooters. There are times when all five guys on the floor can shoot it. Even when Patric Young is out there, they usually have four other guys who are able to knock down shots. There aren't many teams in college basketball like that. Their guys are really good at sprinting, stopping and shooting the 3 -- and that's not easy to do."

Key player

“I think it's Yeguete. If he's not able to come back and play for them, they're really vulnerable on the inside. Young is prone to foul trouble, and Murphy doesn't want to do the work down low. Yeguete can come in for both of those guys and defend the post, or go out on the 3-point line and pressure the basketball.”

“I guess the flavor of the month is [Scottie] Wilbekin. He's been awfully good for them, maybe the most improved player in the league. The only thing that they don't have is depth. If Wilbekin were to have the flu or a sprained ankle or foul problem, that could be an issue for them. All that being said, Wilbekin is probably the biggest key for them. If they've got to play without him, I don't know what they would do.”

"Erik Murphy. He always opens up the floor for the rest of the guys -- Boynton, (Mike) Rosario and Scottie -- to get up 3's. He's in every screening situation and he puts every team in scramble."

"Murphy. When he's on, they are really, really tough to beat. Usually, two of their three guards are going to play well. But when Murphy is on, hitting shots and is active, it takes them to another level, He's a pick and pop guy who is extremely difficult to defend."

Primary weakness

“If they're taking too many 3-pointers and not hitting. They're in love with the 3-point shot. You can switch all their ball-screens, to make Murphy less of a threat. And you have to limit their opportunities from the 3-point line, because they don't have a lot of isolation/breakdown guys. And Young isn't that good in the post. They live and die by the 3.”

“I don't know what you're going to pick apart offensively, and they guard you so well, so I think it's depth. Another thing is they haven't been in a bunch of highly-contested games. You look at Miami, and they've been in close games. What does Florida do in a game like that?”

"Low-post scoring. They just don't really have anyone that can manufacture a hoop with their back to the basket."

"Depth and physical play. Patric Young is physical, but they aren't very physical other than him."

How to stop them

“They get a lot of 3s in transition. You have to be locked in defensively, no jail-breaks or breakdowns defensively. Second thing is the switching. Anytime you guard a guy like Erik Murphy, the only way to guard it without putting in bad rotations is switching. If you have a 4-man who can switch to a point guard, that's by far the best way to guard them. Any other way – hedging, not switching – you're putting yourself in bad rotations.”

“It's hard. The problem with Florida is that your ball-screen defense has to account for Murphy. Your defensive game plan for Florida is very detailed. You can't simplify it, because they have so many different weapons.”

"You have to be extremely physical with them, you need to be able to recover and almost make them 3-point happy. Take away their dribble-drive and be able to close out and make them take contested 3's. Ultimately, though, you need to be physical with them. That's the whole key. Score at them at the rim. Go at them."

"Pressure their guards. Get up in them and pressure them. You can't lay back. You have to get after them and take them out of their comfort zone. They pass the ball so well and it's flying around. When things are rolling, they play beautiful basketball."

Best way to score on them

“You can drive Murphy if you have a perimeter four. I think you have to attack Murphy. I think the other thing is that Young is a really good defender, but you have to throw the ball inside and get him into foul trouble. They don't have a deep rotation of post guys.”

“If I had a big post player, I'd throw it in there and make them defend. How many times are they going to defend without fouling? I think that's where you go with the ball first. I don't know that Murphy is going to be good against a strong, powerful, athletic guy down there in the block.”

"Put them in screening action and reverse the ball to get your big on the block. You want to try and get Patric Young helping, and take him away from the rim. That makes them extremely vulnerable."

"Pound it inside. They have Patric Young, but with Yeguete out, they don't have another physical player. If Patric gets into foul trouble, you have a chance."

Ultimate concern

“First of all, it's transition. Their transition leads to 3-point shots. They run and jump in their press, and bad ball-handling teams turn defense into offense for them. So it's their transition and defense leading to turnovers. And in the half-court, what are you going to do with the ball-screen with Murphy?”

“I think there's two things. Their press is a concern. You've gotta get the ball in the frontcourt if you want to have a chance to score. And their ability to shoot the 3. Those two are the biggest issues.”

"Getting run out of the building. They can really get going from 3-point range. You can't turn it over, and you have to handle their press -- that really gets them going."

"They can score it so quick and get on runs because of their ability to shoot the 3. They have so many guys that can shoot it, so it's tough to stop them."

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“I would want Wilbekin to have the ball in his hands, because he's going to make the right decision. I don't trust Boynton to make the right decision. Wilbekin is going to find the open man or finish, the right decision.”

“You might be onto something there. I couldn't stand the shot Boynton took last night, and it was like he was being funny with the shot. I have no idea what they called in the huddle, or what they were trying to run. And we're singing Wilbekin's praises, but he hasn't been in that position. The one guy who can make a dagger is Murphy. He's the guy, for me, when he rises up and shoots one, he's going to make it. The trick of that is how to get the ball to your four-man for a jumper. I lost some trust in Boynton last night.”

"Rosario. He's got a set of nuts on him. Boynton thinks he does, but it takes too much just for him to get a shot off. Rosario is a really good player -- especially on the offensive end."

"Boynton. He's got big balls and has made big shots before. I know he missed the one against Missouri, but do I want Wilbekin, Murphy or Rosario taking the shot? Probably not. Boynton is older and has been around."

On Will Yeguete's injury

“I don't think there's any way they can make a run to the Final Four without him. Young is going to get in foul trouble, and Murphy is forced to defend a physical post player, and I don't think he's willing to do it or can do it. And [Casey] Prather is not as effective as Yeguete coming off the bench. I don't see it happening.”

“I think it hurts. If nobody gets hurt, nobody gets sick, nobody has foul problems, you're probably OK. Prather can pick up some of the slack, but he's more perimeter-oriented than Yeguete. That could be an issue before everything is over for them. The one thing to keep in mind, the timeouts are so long in the NCAA tournament, you can shorten your bench a bit. That doesn't help with fouls or injuries, but it does with conditioning.”

"He's the best role player coming off the bench in the entire country. He plays with so much energy, is terrific defensively and rebounds the ball. He's so aggressive on the front of their press and changes what they are able to do. They need him back to make a deep run in March."

"They won't win it all -- or even get to the Final Four -- without him. They aren't all that tough as a team, and need him for defense and toughness."

Leftovers

“Their coaching staff does a tremendous job of scouting. Our players were coming to us saying, ‘Coach, they know all our plays.' ‘Well, no shit.'”

“Murphy isn't great in the post, but he's so difficult to prepare for. When you switch a point guard on him, he can score in the post. And he can shoot.”

“Wilbekin is so good defensively. He chased around Marshall Henderson and never got screened; we didn't have anyone who can do that. He's terrific defensively. On the ball, off the ball, doesn't matter.”

“Young is older and that helps him, and he's stronger and that helps him. And there's not a lot of good post players in our league. Who's got a post player that's really a threat to him?”

"They are great in terms of perimeter defense. Wilbekin is a terrific on-ball defender. He's strong and physical -- and he's the one who sets the tone for them. If they didn't have Wilbekin and Patric Young, they couldn't do anything defensively."

"I worry about Florida in the tournament because the SEC is so, so bad. They don't get pushed night in and night out -- not like the Big Ten and the Big East. I'm afraid it's going to be like Gonzaga -- and the league hasn't prepared them well enough to make a run when it counts."

"They are a prime suspect for early departure in the tournament. They peaked early, and teams have started to figure them out a little bit. They aren't physical and aren't deep -- especially without Yeguete. Can they make the Final Four? No question. They can also get beat early and it wouldn't shock me at all."
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good stuff. thanks. obviously I was most interested in the Michigan link. it's interesting to read opinions of you team from people in the know. I have my own ideas on who they are and their strengths and weaknesses. and some of that...apparently I don't know what I'm talking about.

I'd swear they've lost games mostly due to being pussies on the offensive boards. these guys don't necessarily think so.
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good stuff. thanks. obviously I was most interested in the Michigan link. it's interesting to read opinions of you team from people in the know. I have my own ideas on who they are and their strengths and weaknesses. and some of that...apparently I don't know what I'm talking about.

I'd swear they've lost games mostly due to being pussies on the offensive boards. these guys don't necessarily think so.
I thought the Florida article was spot on. It is definitely interesting, especially because they're quotes from coaches who have played them this year. It's also compiled and presented bluntly without sugarcoating.
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I know this isn’t COLLEGE b-ball, but it’s as good a place to share as any.
My friend, Fred Guthrie, he was the water patrolman lost in the flood waters with his K9 partner Reed August 2011. Theres a thread out here about it.

Anyways I watched his sons play in a district game last night. They both play for West Platte. One is a sophomore one is a senior. They played St Marys. I’m watching them warm up and I’m looking at St Marys and most of them look like grade schoolers. I’d have bet the mortgage it would be a slaughter. West Platte is undefeated this year! Their starters are roughly 6’ 10”, 6’ 5”, two 6’ 3”s and a 6’ 1”. Three dunkers.

This was one of the best games I’ve ever seen. St Marys point guard couldn’t have been 5’ 8” and looked like a 7th grader. This kid could make a three in his sleep. Matter of fact they had three kids who would pop threes with authority. The game lead must have changed 20 times. Both teams at different points came storming back from 10+ point deficits to retake the lead in less than 2 minutes! It was knucking futs! Just an awesome game.

With about 2:30 left to go they were neck and neck….and West Platte went on a little run and it seemed in hand. St Marys came back a bit, enough to put scare in there but West Platte held them off. One of the last baskets was a West Platte two handed dunk, and he was fouled and made the free throw.

I looked at those St Marys kids in awe. Not much to look at, but what a team. That’s why I love basketball so damn much. You’re a 20 point favorite….you better watch your ass! I LOVE IT.
West Platte may win state. And it’s certainly possible they won’t be challenged again this year as much as they were last night.

Anyways, just wanted to share….somewhere. Freddy’s boys don’t even start, but they are a huge part of this team. They play lots. The sophomore is a great guard and should probably start, but he’s behind a senior…for now. Freddy would be so proud.
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What a pile of shit game between Oregon and Cal. Cal can't play basketball, unfortunately Oregon let them drag them down.
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Decent RPI. If they beat VCU and Butler on Friday, I think they're in.
Lunardi has them as an 8 seed right now, fwiw.

Not bad at all for the Billikens.
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