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Some Tea Party Republicans start to make some moves to repeal the 17th amendment.
Amusing. Obviously this will get no where, but the GOP's extremism unearths itself yet again.
I don't get it -- why, exactly, is a Senator elected directly by the people less beholden to his/her state's interests? http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20...amendment.html Far-Thinking Georgia Republicans Want to Scrap the 17th Amendment By David Weigel Posted Tuesday, Feb. 19, 2013, at 2:54 PM Georgia's legislature, now run by a Republican supermajority, has inched ahead on a resolution endorsing the repeal of the 17th Amendment. Honestly, I thought that fad died out sometime in 2011, but it's easy to forget that the 2012 election firmed up Republican control in red states, and that ideas like this have empowered sponsors. The rationale, from the bill text: Quote:
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The Georgia Legislature can bitch all they want, but in the end the 17th Amendment will still be in place so this isn't going anywhere.
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I just hesitate to endorse it because it would be a massive change in our current system, and I don't think I understand or can anticipate those ramifications without researching and contemplating the effects.
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Now the corporation can pay the state legislators directly and put their own guy in the senate instead of having to give money to someone else's campaign and hoping they get what they want.
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Yeah, bribery and peddling influence is always going to be attempted. Transparency in campaign financing and full disclosure of personal finance records for members of the House would be a good place to start.
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I think people electing Senators is a horrible idea. The House is supposed to represent the people, and the Senate is supposed to represent the states. By eliminating the power of the states in the senate, all we've effectively done is hand it over to billionaires. It no longer represents the states or the people.
The 17th amendment backfired. It's been a net loss. It was a terrible and short-sighted idea to begin with, and only gets worse as each year passes.
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Plus the 17th was promoted as being less corrupt and it's been more so. Outside special interests of the state give money, pressure from the national media and other factions bear influence on them over their state's concerns. It shifted political power from the rural areas to the big cities too. If the state legislatures elected someone, they can be recalled at anytime if they don't represent the state's interests. That's a plus for the states.
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"Future historians, when they come to write the obituary of the United States, will note that we started out with the best system ever devised by man and willingly dismantled it for a bowl of federal porridge." ~ Charley Reese
The left likes it this way because they want that bowl of porridge.
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Madison — Federalist #10 The purpose of the Constitution, the original version ( give or take some Amendments) was to place restraints on "the violence of faction." As we evolved away from it, we have more faction.
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