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Old 02-15-2013, 01:03 AM  
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Pope Benedict Seeking Immunity?
Pope Benedict to seek immunity and protection from Italian President Giorgio Napolitano on February 23 Posted on February 14, 2013 by itccs

http://itccs.org/2013/02/14/pope-ben...n-february-23/

Pope Benedict, Joseph Ratzinger, has scheduled a meeting with Italian President Giorgio Napolitano for Saturday, February 23 to discuss securing protection and immunity from prosecution from the Italian government, according to Italian media sources.

Ratzinger's meeting follows upon the apparent receipt by the Vatican of a diplomatic note from an undisclosed European government on February 4, stating its intention to issue an arrest warrant for Ratzinger, who resigned from his pontificate less than a week later.

In response to the February 23 meeting, the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State (ITCCS), through its field Secretary, Rev. Kevin Annett, has written to President Napolitano, asking him to refrain from assisting Ratzinger in evading justice.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:44 PM   #46
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Yes of course. This might have caused events to reach a tipping point but Ratzinger had to be removed as soon as possible much like lancing an infected boil allows it to drain and ultimately heal.
Who removed Ratzinger?
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They have an enormus amount of influence over people's perception. If you can't recognize that, I don't know what to tell you. They are not alone either. So the argument could made that HBO's presentation could have influenced tbis decision. However, I don't agree that the airing caused him to step down, but its possible it increased the pressure.
I think this is just silly. What new things did the movie unearth?
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:48 PM   #48
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Who removed Ratzinger?
I'll give you three guesses and the first 1,000 don't count.

First time a pope steps down in 600 years. Call me odd, call me an ass but coincidences of this type are not going to fly with me. Feel free to say it was.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:49 PM   #49
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Who removed Ratzinger?
Nobody removed Ratz, because nobody has any authority to do so.
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Yes of course. This might have caused events to reach a tipping point but Ratzinger had to be removed as soon as possible much like lancing an infected boil allows it to drain and ultimately heal.
This situation will not heal. They will soon prop up another as infalable, and there is not a candidate available that did not know what went down. The fact whoever it is did not stand up in protest up to and including walking away means the replacement is no better than the man he will replace~
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I think this is just silly. What new things did the movie unearth?
I don't think its that. Just by the re-telling of the story and packaging. It increases awareness.
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I'll give you three guesses and the first 1,000 don't count.

First time a pope steps down in 600 years. Call me odd, call me an ass but coincidences of this type are not going to fly with me. Feel free to say it was.
I have no guess. You think the Cardinals, who were shocked to hear about this, forced him to step down?

This isn't a coincidence. A coincidence has to occur at basically the same time.
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This situation will not heal. They will soon prop up another as infalable, and there is not a candidate available that did not know what went down. The fact whoever it is did not stand up in protest up to and including walking away means the replacement is no better than the man he will replace~
"Did not know what went down," years after the incidents.
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I don't think its that. Just by the re-telling of the story and packaging. It increases awareness.
Is there anyone who is just learning about the abuse because of this movie?
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You are clinging on to made up or assumed facts.
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I would love to hear your take on the matter as a rational Catholic (apologies if that's not true, I'm thinking that you self identified as Catholic) regarding the structure and hierarchy of the church, and how they might respond.
You want my comments on the structure and hierarchy of the Church in general, or with particular regards to the sex abuse?

I am going to watch the movie soon and will give a review here.
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You are clinging on to made up or assumed facts.
Are they hiring from the outside? Lets see there has been a world wide ****ing little kids problem, the Vatican has been moving child molesters from parish to parish and in many cases hiding these molesters inside the Vatican for years. So either the new pope is very young or will need to be chosen from the outside of the church which is not going to happen. Whoever is chosen turned a blind eye to this situation. If and we are talking a ****ing huge if the new guy did not know about this he is still just another human and sure as hell is not a substitute of any god on earth~
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This is silliness. Vatican City is a sovereign nation, the Italians aren't going to do a thing.
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This is silliness. Vatican City is a sovereign nation, the Italians aren't going to do a thing.
That's just half of it. Who is going to be the prosecutor? What nation is going to level the charges? What org is going to take on 1 billion Catholics worldwide?
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