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Old 02-22-2013, 07:37 AM  
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Poilian says no QB worthy of #1. Chiefs can find one later





Former Colts GM Polian says Chiefs can find a QB in the draft

— In Bill Polian’s long career as an NFL general manager, his team had the number-one pick in the draft just once. That was in 1998, when he was with Indianapolis, and the Colts that year selected a quarterback, Peyton Manning.


That worked out well for Polian and the Colts. But Polian said he doesn’t think the Chiefs should draft a quarterback with this year’s first pick, even though they would like an upgrade over Matt Cassel. Like many assessing this year’s draft, Polian said there’s not a quarterback worthy of being the number-one selection.

“Just because there’s not a quarterback that everybody now doesn’t think is worth the number-one pick doesn’t mean you can’t get a quarterback,” Polian said. “Nobody thought Russell Wilson was worth a third-round pick except a couple of us. He turned out to be a pretty good quarterback.

“You always go for the best player. It’s foolish to go for need and (Chiefs coach Andy Reid) won’t do that.”

While Reid coached in Philadelphia, the Eagles at least a couple of times found quarterbacks after the first round who eventually became starters, including Kevin Kolb and Nick Foles.

“Nobody develops quarterbacks better than Andy Reid,” Polian said. “So rest assured, you’ve got the right guy. Whatever decision he makes will be the right one. He’ll find a quarterback. It doesn’t need to be the first guy in the draft.”
Other than to stay away from quarterbacks, Polian had no advice for the Chiefs with the first pick.

“Ask Andy,” he said. “They know their personnel far better than I do and they know what they need.”



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Old 02-22-2013, 09:53 AM   #106
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What a bunch of you are forgetting he was the qb coach at green bay

He developed

Favre, Hasselback, and Brunell
NOT A QB GURU!

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Old 02-22-2013, 09:54 AM   #107
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My you're awfully trolly today. Not once did I ever say the Chiefs should bring in Kevin Kolb. I didn't even suggest it, and the thought has never crossed my head.

I simply told you that Andy Reid's quarterbacks have played well within his system. And now you're trying to deflect by putting words in my mouth.

If you don't want to call Reid a QB guru, fine.
Your standards are ridiculously low if you think Kolb played well in Philly.

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Old 02-22-2013, 09:56 AM   #108
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FYI, the excuse given for why Kolb couldn't secure the starting spot in Philly was that he got injured. TWICE.

Well guess what? He has the SAME PROBLEM in Arizona.

A QB that can't stay healthy cannot be, BY DEFINITION, a franchise QB.

So let's throw out Kolb.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:56 AM   #109
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What a bunch of you are forgetting he was the qb coach at green bay

He developed

Favre, Hasselback, and Brunell
MUCH better.

Now this is a real conversation.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:57 AM   #110
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Your standards are ridiculously low if you think Kolb played well in Philly.

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Come on, Andy Reid flipped him for picks. He's a QB genius.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:57 AM   #111
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I simply told you that Andy Reid's quarterbacks have played well within his system.
Well, you're wrong.

So there's that.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:59 AM   #112
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Come on, Andy Reid flipped him for picks. He's a QB genius.
Not a knock on Reid, more an indictment of how stupid the Cardinals were. If his rep as a QB guy gets teams to do similar stupid shit for us, it will be awesome.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:00 AM   #113
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All of this trade back talk is ridiculous.

NOBODY is going to trade up to #1 for a Tackle. Or a Guard. Or a corner. NOBODY. None of those players is a game changer, and you don't trade up to the #1 spot for anything less.

A QB is a game changer. If you don't have one, you're screwed. We don't. If Dorsey and Reid like Geno, they'll take him at #1. I hope they do, I hope we can go forward with our very own #1 guy and I hope he becomes the franchise QB we've always wanted.

But I don't know. It may be a 2nd rounder.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:00 AM   #114
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Reids next best QB while in Philly was Vick. oh yea, hes a former #1 pick.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:03 AM   #115
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I would counter and say that there isn't anyone worth the #1 pick in this draft.

Warmack? You don't take a guard #1 no matter what. I wouldn't even take Will Shields #1.

Jones? nope (stenosis?)

Joeckel? Maybe ... if you think he is a Jonathan Ogden level type LT

Milliner? A cornerback better be able to shit gold to be taken #1 and i heard that Milliner needs surgery.

In a draft with no obvious gold star prospects the value of the position takes on more weight. Quarterback is the most valuable position in the NFL. So if you are going to 'reach' for a player at #1 then you reach for a QB.

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Old 02-22-2013, 10:03 AM   #116
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Well, you're wrong.

So there's that.
Mr. All Knowing: Still waiting on your QB guru list.
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I would counter and say that there isn't anyone worth the #1 pick in this draft.

Warmack? You don't take a guard #1 no matter what. I wouldn't even take Will Shields #1.

Jones? nope (stenosis?)

Joeckel? Maybe ... if you think he is a Jonathan Ogden level type LT

Milliner? A cornerback better be able to shit gold to be taken #1 and i heard that Milliner needs surgery.

In a draft with no obvious gold star prospects the value of the position takes on more weight. Quarterback is the most valuable position in the NFL. So if you are going to 'reach' for a player at #1 then you reach for a QB.

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THIS. It's not like there's a consensus #1 player that's just not a QB. NONE of these options is a home run. So I think you take the position of greatest possbile impact to your team. That would be QB.
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Well, you're wrong.

So there's that.
Yep.

Combined numbers for QB starts under Andy Reid NOT named Donovan McNabb:

38-44 record (.463)
55% completion percentage
112 TD's
94 INT's
70 QBR.


And those numbers are inflated due to Vick, who was a #1 overall pick.

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Old 02-22-2013, 10:15 AM   #120
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Yep.

Combined numbers for QB starts under Andy Reid NOT named Donovan McNabb:

38-44 record
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94 INT's
70 QBR.


And those numbers are inflated due to Vick, who was a #1 overall pick.
I stand corrected then.
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