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Old 02-22-2013, 10:35 AM  
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John Dorsey coming up next on NFL Network

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Dorsey is coming up next on NFLN.
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:55 PM   #121
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Nobody gave a shit about Piolis personality when we were winning in 2010 and nobody should give a shit about Dorseys as long as the team is winning.
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:55 PM   #122
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I doubt the NFLPA will approve any contract with less $ than the current one. I like 2 year extension with some combination of signing bonus & third year ballon adding up to $14 mil. Puts cap around 4.33 per year.

That's a little high for his production, but not totally out of whack. I would not be surprised to see him released, make a FA tour then wind up back here.
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:56 PM   #123
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I know people in the Chiefs building that say Dorsey has been the complete opposite of SP. They say he shakes everyone's hand, talks to people like people and is very down to earth.

I have a college friend who works for the Packers and he said he's one of the nicest guys he's met.

I think his on-camer persona is awkward because he's not comfortable in front of it.
That's what I gathered as well before we hired him, based on all of the comments about him from people who have worked with him. The entire scouting world apparently loves this guy, he is friends with a lot of people around the league, and he is down to earth and friendly and doesn't BS you as a person.

But being in the scouting background for all of those years, the media isn't exactly his No 1 priority, and he has learned from his previous employers that you must keep your cards close to your vest, so he's going to come off as dry and boring to the media, at least during the draft season.

The bottom line with this guy (or any guy) will be wins...
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:57 PM   #124
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I could be wrong, but I have always been under the impression contracts could be disapproved by the NFLPA. Similar to league review of trades.

Part and parcel of collective bargaining. It is not just you and the team. If you take a pay cut, it affects the other players future pay as well. NFLPA no likey.
yeah you are wrong.

Vick went from a multi year deal in which he would get over 15 million this season to a one year deal worth 10 with only 3.5 guaranteed.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:21 PM   #125
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Don't get me wrong, I want to keep Jackson. He's good, just not elite. If he's not willing to take a reasonable pay cut, then cut him. Try signing him after he talks to a few teams and sees what his market is. If they are also offering him too much, then let him go. But I don't see that happening, and if he wants a starting job his best bet is coming back here IMO.
Here's the thing, though - he's of no added value to the Chiefs. He has no experience in our system, he's not ever been discussed as a leader in the lockerroom. He's just another guy and if he were a FA, he wouldn't be a guy we looked at highly because he's never operated in a 1-gap and his skills aren't particularly well-suited for it.

So if he goes to the market, I'd let him just come back to us because he'd lose several ties for me.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:26 PM   #126
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Jackson's a meh guy. Every team has them, have to to fill some spots. Although if it came down to him or a guy like Sopoagoa from SF, yeah, sorry Tyson, we've decided to go another direction.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:47 PM   #127
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Dude, don't forget the candy wrappers, the locks on the doors, the black and white copiers.

There's no way Dorsey could EVER be as bad. NO WAY.
And my personal favorite, the media needing an escort to use the pisser.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:50 PM   #128
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And my personal favorite, the media needing an escort to use the pisser.
They're going to reveal our secrets!
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:00 PM   #129
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Here's the thing, though - he's of no added value to the Chiefs. He has no experience in our system, he's not ever been discussed as a leader in the lockerroom. He's just another guy and if he were a FA, he wouldn't be a guy we looked at highly because he's never operated in a 1-gap and his skills aren't particularly well-suited for it.

So if he goes to the market, I'd let him just come back to us because he'd lose several ties for me.
Well, he's got some potential maybe. IIRC he was slated to go 10-25 when numb nuts picked him 3. He's worth trying to restructure. Maybe playing outside of Crennels shitty system he can do some good.


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And my personal favorite, the media needing an escort to use the pisser.
Mandating that all blinds in the building be shut was mine. Like teams were going to steal the plays. THAT is why Cassel sucked.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:02 PM   #130
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:03 PM   #131
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my personal favorite was watching the GM pass on pure talent with red flags and having a player on the roster he spent years and resources on to try to cover up with consoling and sweep it under the rug and it was the biggest player with red flag issues the NFL has seen probably ever.

hes promoting "character" to the public and behind close doors that was far from the truth he had the biggest group of trouble makers ive seen on the Chiefs in years
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:12 PM   #132
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:15 PM   #133
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To me, I see the stereotypical stupid jock. Now, I don't think he's an idiot, but it's clear that he struggles to maintain "GM speak" in front of the mic; he fumbles around so damn much that he makes me feel embarrassed for him.
In his first press I sensed his dickness.

I am thinking that if Hunt had interviewed Dorsey before Ried, Dorsey wouldnt have made the cut. Ried sold him to Hunt.


We'll know in a few months I guess but I'd ****ing hate it to have him as my boss.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:26 PM   #134
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yeah you are wrong.

Vick went from a multi year deal in which he would get over 15 million this season to a one year deal worth 10 with only 3.5 guaranteed.
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I got over it last time I was wrong.
I probably will get over it this time, too.

I'm not sure how this all fits in the discussion, though:

"According to Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer, Vick has signed a three-year contract which, for salary cap purposes, will void to a one-year deal on March 15."
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...8687--nfl.html

Technically, there are 2 more years in the contract for review purposes. It's game playing since, like Jackson's $14.5M salary year, they will never be paid.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:28 PM   #135
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So it's a one year deal.
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