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Old 02-22-2013, 01:53 PM  
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:54 PM   #2
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:59 PM   #3
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Player School Height Weight Hand Size
Matt Barkley USC 6-3 227 10.08
Tyler Bray Tennessee 6-6 232 9.28
Colby Cameron Louisiana Tech 6-2 212 9.08
Zac Dysert Miami of Ohio 6-3 231 9.18
Mike Glennon N.C. State 6-7 225 9.58
Marqueis Gray Minnesota 6-3 240 9.78
Landry Jones Oklahoma 6-4 225 9.18
Collin Klein Kansas State 6-5 226 9.28
E.J. Manuel Florida State 6-5 237 10.38
Ryan Nassib Syracuse 6-2 227 10.18
Sean Renfree Duke 6-3 219 9.08
Matt Scott Arizona 6-2 213 9.08
Geno Smith West Virginia 6-2 218 9.28
Brad Sorensen Southern Utah 6-4 237
James Vandenberg Iowa 6-3 226 9.68
Tyler Wilson Arkansas 6-2 215
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:03 PM   #4
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Good day for Matt Barkley; huge hands and he measured firmly in the 'fine' height.

Everyone else was pretty expected. Geno's hands are a little smaller than I'd hoped; also lighter.

I really do wish that Barkley would've thrown at this thing.

And again, I know guys hate EJ Manuel, but damn he's a specimen. That's a perfect build, IMO.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:05 PM   #5
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Good day for Matt Barkley; huge hands and he measured firmly in the 'fine' height.

Everyone else was pretty expected. Geno's hands are a little smaller than I'd hoped; also lighter.

I really do wish that Barkley would've thrown at this thing.

And again, I know guys hate EJ Manuel, but damn he's a specimen. That's a perfect build, IMO.
I'm surprised Wilson is actually THINNER than Smith.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:06 PM   #6
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Good day for Matt Barkley; huge hands and he measured firmly in the 'fine' height.

Everyone else was pretty expected. Geno's hands are a little smaller than I'd hoped; also lighter.

I really do wish that Barkley would've thrown at this thing.

And again, I know guys hate EJ Manuel, but damn he's a specimen. That's a perfect build, IMO.
Biggest thing with him, is that he goes back to your old accuracy grading scale.
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Wow, Wilson went from 8" hands to not having hands at all.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:18 PM   #8
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Yeah, you wouldn't want to run a pure WC system with him. He's never going to be a really precise passer.

But if you could build a downfield passing game with some read-option elements in it, you could have a heck of a weapon. It would have to be an unconventional attack and he definitely has warts, but his accuracy will play, IMO.

He's one of those guys that you get in trouble by drafting high. So many talents and there are a lot of good things about him, but the two bad things are really the worst ones - accuracy and ability to pick up an offense. I don't know that he can/can't do it, but he hasn't been asked to yet so that's certainly a red flag.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:18 PM   #9
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:23 PM   #10
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Yeah, you wouldn't want to run a pure WC system with him. He's never going to be a really precise passer.

But if you could build a downfield passing game with some read-option elements in it, you could have a heck of a weapon. It would have to be an unconventional attack and he definitely has warts, but his accuracy will play, IMO.

He's one of those guys that you get in trouble by drafting high. So many talents and there are a lot of good things about him, but the two bad things are really the worst ones - accuracy and ability to pick up an offense. I don't know that he can/can't do it, but he hasn't been asked to yet so that's certainly a red flag.
I'm just not about non accurate QB's anymore after what we've seen the last few. I know you can't go to the opposite end of the spectrum and yes, he has some good tools, but man, he's got alot of rough edges too.


If Reid wants to run the system he's always ran, I'm not sure he has the accuracy to do it.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:26 PM   #11
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Barkley is the single most undervalued QB in this draft. Such nonsense being thrown around about him being worth only a second-round grade.

Starts, system experience, intangibles, physical skill set...it's all there. Not going to be surprised at all if he's the Chiefs QB this fall.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:27 PM   #12
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I'm just not about non accurate QB's anymore after what we've seen the last few. I know you can't go to the opposite end of the spectrum and yes, he has some good tools, but man, he's got alot of rough edges too.


If Reid wants to run the system he's always ran, I'm not sure he has the accuracy to do it.
This is probably true.

Manuel's not a good fit for Reid's system as we know it. That said, the way he tweaked it for Vick (use your legs to create space downfield - bombs away) could certainly fit EJ.

We'd need to do a lot of work on the WR corp, though. Bowe is a good start, but we'd need a Harvin or Maclin to spread defenses downfield.

The simplest, safest answers are Geno, Barkley, Wilson (in that order, IMO); but an extremely ballsy alternative would be trading down with Philly, picking up another freak of nature like Floyd to play alongside Poe and grabbing Manuel.

I don't have the cajones to try it because that's the kind of boom/bust draft that could get you fired, but if it all worked out, it could be !@#$ing unbelievable.
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Barkley is the single most undervalued QB in this draft. Such nonsense being thrown around about him being worth only a second-round grade.

Starts, system experience, intangibles, physical skill set...it's all there. Not going to be surprised at all if he's the Chiefs QB this fall.
I know it's illogical, I really know that. But I just am sick at having another #7 USC quarterback named Matt.

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Barkley is the single most undervalued QB in this draft. Such nonsense being thrown around about him being worth only a second-round grade.

Starts, system experience, intangibles, physical skill set...it's all there. Not going to be surprised at all if he's the Chiefs QB this fall.
I thought he was projected to go top 5 or 10 last year if he would have come out? Why did he fall?
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