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Old 01-08-2013, 07:59 PM  
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Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall

http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/08/luke-jo...-no-1-overall/

For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock.

The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports.

The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft.

How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency.

The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk.

The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire.

Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating.

Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent.

Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability.

But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency.

All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.
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Old 02-27-2013, 02:45 PM   #826
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Shit after this trade, they'll probably take a 2 rounder.
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Old 02-27-2013, 02:45 PM   #827
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Old 02-27-2013, 02:45 PM   #828
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I really believe they'll trade out of the #1 overall spot and think they'll take anything to do it.
After these latest developments, id be all for that. I just dont see anyone willing to trade up to #1 ???
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Old 02-27-2013, 02:46 PM   #829
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I really believe they'll trade out of the #1 overall spot and think they'll take anything to do it.
Trade out to a team drafting Geno Smith #1 overall? Classic KC.
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Moot. Albert walks, and we're drafting a LT. Guaranteed.
Three predictions:
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2) Chiefs draft Joeckel and let Albert go.
3) Joeckel never becomes what Albert was.
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Old 02-27-2013, 02:47 PM   #831
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Trade out to a team drafting Geno Smith #1 overall? Classic KC.
We'll trade with the Eagles. The Eagles will take Smith and rape.......and we'll take Joeckel or Fisher and look like ****ing idiots.

Yay.
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Old 02-27-2013, 02:47 PM   #832
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Brian Jozwiak? Ah, hell no! lol
Why the hell not. I mean everybody thinks the rookie quarterbacks are Todd Blackledge. I'm going to say Luke Joeckel is Brian Jozwiak.
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Old 02-27-2013, 02:47 PM   #833
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After these latest developments, id be all for that. I just dont see anyone willing to trade up to #1 ???
Sure they will.
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I really believe they'll trade out of the #1 overall spot and think they'll take anything to do it.
If you're going to try and go against history with backup QB's might as well fight history thinking you can win trading out of the 1 hole too.
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Three predictions:
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2) Chiefs draft Joeckel and let Albert go.
3) Joeckel never becomes what Albert was.
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We'll trade with the Eagles. The Eagles will take Smith and rape.......and we'll take Joeckel or Fisher and look like ****ing idiots.

Yay.
If they do this, I still hope they get Foles as part of the trade. He has more potential than a 4th round QB would have.
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:14 PM   #837
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I really believe they'll trade out of the #1 overall spot and think they'll take anything to do it.
In other words, they'll take a broomstick up the ass.

Kind of like giving up a 2nd rounder and more for Alex Smith.
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Philly would move up more than likely. Who the **** do we take now? This is an absolute abortion.
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If they give up picks for any of those three guys, which they would likely have to do as they are all under contract, I'm going to be pissed.

Jason Campbell is as good as any of those dudes and is an UFA.

If they pick Joeckel #1 while being one draft and one season FA removed from Stephenson, Allen and Winston, and don't make a reasonable offer to Albert, they can suck my winky.

If they pick Lotulelei #1 after picking Poe with the #11 pick last season, they can go scrape out my ass tracks from my undies with their teeth.

If they take a pass rushing end #1 with Hali and Houston on the roster they can get raped by a water buffalo.

If they take Chance Warmack #1 they should be shot in the face repeatedly. And that's not even considering that they took Hudson and Asamoah recently.

If they take Manti Te'o #1, see above. All of the above.

The only logical, rational and sane choices that they have are Dee Milliner at CB or Geno Smith at QB.

And I'm not convinced that Milliner is substantially better than either Banks, Rhodes or Amerson (they are all long, big, fluid press cover guys who would be ideal opposite Flowers), and one of those guys is going to be available with our Round 2 pick.

Whereas the left overs from the QB position are going to be substantially less than what Geno brings to the table.

That's how I see it in a nutshell.
So just a quick add on to the Ron parker thread, would you say you were wrong here, Jason Campbell?
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So just a quick add on to the Ron parker thread, would you say you were wrong here, Jason Campbell?
Wow.....
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