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Old 02-28-2013, 12:26 AM  
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Old 02-28-2013, 12:59 AM   #16
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:00 AM   #17
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his QBR was 44.7

he was ****ing awful

his stats LITERALLY all came in garbage time...

an ELITE QB doesn't land you the #3 pick in the NFL Draft.

I know you're not the most intelligent guy in the world, but here are the QB's for the first 13 teams picking in the draft this year:

Matt Cassel
Blaine Gabbert
Carson Palmer
Michael Vick
Matt Stafford
Brandon Weeden
John Skelton
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Mark Sanchez
Jake Locker
Philip Rivers
Ryan Tannehill
Josh Freeman

7 of the 10 of those QB's play in the AFC (the clearly inferior conference)...so in a clearly inferior conference in the most inferior division in football Carson Palmer managed to land the Raiders the #3 overall pick.

If that isn't damning enough evidence for you I don't know what is...Carson Palmer is literally in the bottom 2/3 of starting NFL QB's and that's probably being generous.

I'm not bashing him for being on Oakland...that literally doesn't phase me. If named "Peyton's Princess" and he plays in Denver, a team I hate just as much as Oakland...

I respect good QB play, always have...Carson Palmer is awful. He just is.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:02 AM   #18
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if you're an elite QB, your team doesn't end up drafting 3rd overall when you were healthy all year...

that is just not possible...

he's not even league average

I'd take Alex Smith over Carson Palmer 10 times out of 10.

Carson Palmer is just a name...how he is still a name baffles me. He literally had 2 good years...and as soon as he blew out his knee he was DONE.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:13 AM   #19
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:14 AM   #20
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his QBR was 44.7

he was ****ing awful

his stats LITERALLY all came in garbage time...

an ELITE QB doesn't land you the #3 pick in the NFL Draft.

I know you're not the most intelligent guy in the world, but here are the QB's for the first 13 teams picking in the draft this year:

Matt Cassel
Blaine Gabbert
Carson Palmer
Michael Vick
Matt Stafford
Brandon Weeden
John Skelton
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Mark Sanchez
Jake Locker
Philip Rivers
Ryan Tannehill
Josh Freeman

7 of the 10 of those QB's play in the AFC (the clearly inferior conference)...so in a clearly inferior conference in the most inferior division in football Carson Palmer managed to land the Raiders the #3 overall pick.

If that isn't damning enough evidence for you I don't know what is...Carson Palmer is literally in the bottom 2/3 of starting NFL QB's and that's probably being generous.

I'm not bashing him for being on Oakland...that literally doesn't phase me. If named "Peyton's Princess" and he plays in Denver, a team I hate just as much as Oakland...

I respect good QB play, always have...Carson Palmer is awful. He just is.
Who had a 44.7 QBR ? Carson had an 85.3 last year and the league average is 85.6
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:15 AM   #21
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I would say neither....but if you force me to pick, I would say Smith. Palmer cost the Fade a 1st and a 2nd rounder, and Smith is only going to cost 2 2nd's. Plus, Palmer is a bigger cap hit.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:17 AM   #22
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Having said that A smith over a first and second for Palmer any day.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:20 AM   #23
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Smith if you want touchdowns for your team, Palmer if you want touchdowns for the other team.


Right now I take Smith over any QB in the AFC West not named Manning. Rivers is garbage, he turns the ball over like he gets paid for it, Palmer is even worse, he turns the ball over a bunch and then throws for a lot of yards in garbage time when his team is already out of it.
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Who had a 44.7 QBR ? Carson had an 85.3 last year and the league average is 85.6
QBR is a different metric n00b

Palmer was AWFUL last year. AWFUL.
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QBR is a different metric n00b

Palmer was AWFUL last year. AWFUL.
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Our team is so ****ing awful we have to compare Smith, Cassel and Palmer to try an better this god awful situation.



I mean holy ****ing Christ people. We are really ****ed up. I seriously wanna cry. Just saying **** it and cry like a bitch.
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if Palmer doesn't restructure I'd be amazed if he wasn't cut this year...

at this point I'm fully assuming the Raiders take Geno at #3 and cut Palmer

he costs a lot, is a damn statue, and couldn't win in the NFL no matter where he went

if he was the starter in San Fran on the same team Alex Smith went 6-2 on he'd still be a loser

dude can't play QB in the NFL anymore...not accurate enough, not mobile at all, and doesn't make good decisions with the football
Im not sure what his problems are...but his stats from last year look decent. 61% passer.....22 TDs, 14 INTS, over 4000 yards.
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Our team is so ****ing awful we have to compare Smith, Cassel and Palmer to try an better this god awful situation.



I mean holy ****ing Christ people. We are really ****ed up. I seriously wanna cry. Just saying **** it and cry like a bitch.
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