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Old 03-05-2013, 11:03 AM  
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The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:29 AM   #31
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I will gladly admit I was wrong if they do end up picking a QB #1, hopefully Geno Smith. I think yesterday made that possibility much stronger.

The Alex Smith trade just looked like the same old crap, just a different year with different management. If they don't take one in the first round, even trading down, well then it is the same old crap.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:30 AM   #32
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You guys are going to ****ing explode all over the place again when they inevitably don't draft him. And after the last time, I fully expect actual suicides to take place.

I am trying to save lives.
Gabbert is the only "Sherrif" in town in Jax next year....bank on it.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:30 AM   #33
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Free Agency is going to tell us a lot. If they sign a CB and a DE like Canty.......then either trading down or QB are the only logical moves.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:31 AM   #34
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Have fun with Gabbert next year. But hey, at least you will be in the running for Clowney. So you have that to look forward to....
Have fun with the older version of Gabbert next year. But hey, at least you will be in the running for a 3rd/4th ranked QB next year.

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Gabbert is the only "Sherrif" in town in Jax next year....bank on it.
I agree. We just drafted him two years ago. I have never denied this.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:31 AM   #35
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If we do, it makes the Alex Smith trade look absolutely and completely foolish
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:31 AM   #36
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Makes perfect sense. Same thing Dorsey and the front office did with gb in taking rodgers.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:32 AM   #37
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If we do, it makes the Alex Smith trade look absolutely and completely foolish
THAT is what makes the Alex Smith trade look foolish?
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:32 AM   #38
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If we do, it makes the Alex Smith trade look absolutely and completely foolish
Which is why it will never happen. Who gives up potentially two second round picks to trade for a guy making 9 million, and then drafts a QB #1 overall lol
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:32 AM   #39
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Spending multiple Top 10 picks on 3-4 lineman and a 1-1 ILB....A OK!!!
Spending a 1st and 2nd on the QB position...**** NO TOOS RISKY!!!
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:33 AM   #40
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Makes perfect sense. Same thing Dorsey and the front office did with gb in taking rodgers.
Not even remotely close. Anyone who is trying to make that connection is ****ing dumb. Favre was ALREADY ON THE TEAM and aging when they took Rodgers with their own pick.

Alex Smith was traded for this same year Geno is in the draft, and is not in his 30s yet.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:34 AM   #41
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It changes quickly based on the information at hand. After we paid for Alex, we thought (along with a lot of others) that they were going to let Albert walk and draft a LT. That changed yesterday.
No, it's based on emotion and no one here has any patience. Remember how Clark "lied" to us because Pioli was traveling with him to interview new coaches?

And as I said the day we signed Smith, until we saw what happened with Albert there was still a good chance we were going to draft a QB and not an LT but everyone was convinced otherwise instead of just wating a little to see how things panned out.

FFS, Dane started a thread on Sunday polling people on should we fire Dorsey\Reid because they had not done anything with Bowe or Albert.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:34 AM   #42
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Arent you the same one who told us to "bank" on the Chiefs selecting Manuel #1?
Technically, no. I said, "I'm calling it now: EJ Manuel will be the #1 pick by the Chiefs"

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ghlight=manuel

I'm changing my tune a bit. Geno had a better combine than I expected and Manuel didn't distance himself physically from the pack like I expected. If you don't ever change your mind on someone during draft season, you either don't pay attention or you are stubborn to a fault.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:34 AM   #43
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Taking a QB #1 in the draft immediately creates a QB controversy. QB controversies are a PIA for coaches and create problems at every step.

I know yesterday's moves got people excited, but they were no-brainers for a team in a win-now mode. Keeping the teams only WR and best OL isn't really rocket science.

Win now = taking a player that can help the team get to that magical 8 win season that KC fans love so much.
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If we do, it makes the Alex Smith trade look absolutely and completely foolish
No, it doesn't. Just because you draft a QB at #1 doesn't mean he has to start right away. Then again they may draft a QB lower as well but same thing applies.
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We've also spent picks in round 1,2,2,3,3, bookoo FA bucks (Winston) on the OL yet morons still want Jekyll at one over using a 1 and a 2 on the QB position.
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