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Old 03-05-2013, 11:03 AM  
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The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:13 AM   #391
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Pennington was incapable of winning jackshit.

He played for two different franchises and while he was a "good guy", he was nothing more than a tease.

I sincerely hope that Andy Reid and John Dorsey avoid "teasing" Chiefs fans for the next 7 years.
Yeah, there's certainly nothing "teasing" about making moves that ensure optimum Wild Card oppotunities for years to come!
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:14 AM   #392
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Fuuuck youuuu.

You're the person that said just last month that you'd spend a 2nd round pick on Stanzi.

You're freaking delusional. Or you're incapable of rational thought.

Either way, you're embarrassing yourself. Please stop.
Say that a few more times. Don't care. Not taking the bait.

There is a reason you won't answer and you know what it is...
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:15 AM   #393
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I still need one more person to bet me 50.00 that they don't. I am willing to take your money as well.
If I had fifty to piss away, I'd absolutely do it.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:17 AM   #394
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Say that a few more times. Don't care. Not taking the bait.

There is a reason you won't answer and you know what it is...
What the **** are you talking about now?
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Dane is gonna have to leave again after we draft Geno.

He faces monstrous backlash.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:18 AM   #395
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He faces monstrous backlash.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:22 AM   #396
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What the **** are you talking about now?
You've seen enough of Barkley. Would you rather have him or Chance Warmack?

I can't believe that you caught the "wait till there is a perfect prospect" disease.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:24 AM   #397
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You've seen enough of Barkley. Would you rather have him or Chance Warmack?

I can't believe that you caught the "wait till there is a perfect prospect" disease.
Warmack? When? What the **** are you talking about?

I've seen Barkley and while his 2011 season was stellar, his 2012 was not. The guy is coming off of a major shoulder injury and won't throw in front of scouts for more than three weeks.

Why in the **** would you hedge your best on that guy? He had questionable arm strength before the injury.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:39 AM   #398
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I still need one more person to bet me 50.00 that they don't. I am willing to take your money as well.
I'd be willing to bet $50 that the Chiefs do not take a QB.

Even more if it's someone in Eastern Iowa.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:46 AM   #399
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2006
Tennesse - Vince Young
Arizona - Matt Leinart
Denver - Jay Cutler
1 Post Season win among them

2007
Jamarcus Russell
Brady Quinn
No Post Season wins

2008
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
10 Post Season wins/2 Post Season winners

2009
Matt Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman
4 Post Season wins/1 Post Season winner

2010
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Tim Tebow
No Post Season Wins

2011
Cam Newton
Jake Locker
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder
No Post Season wins

2012
Andrew Luck
Robert Griffin
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden
No Post Season wins

4 of 21 Quarterbacks chosen in the first round over the last 6 seasons have post season wins.


Quarterbacks with the most post season wins:
Tom Brady - 6th round
Joe Montana - 3rd round
Terry Bradshaw - 1st round
John Elway - 1st round
Brett Favre - 2nd round
Troy Aikman - 1st round
Roger Staubach - 10th round
Ben Roethlisberger - 1st round
Bart Starr - 17th round
Kurt Warner - not drafted
Joe Flacco - 1st round

5 of 11 Qbs with the most playoff wins were chosen in the first round.

If we go to Superbowl victories, the odds are even worse for the first round QBs.

While I understand the position is flashy, it is not the only position on the field. Hopefully Andy Reid and the Chiefs see the same thing.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:47 AM   #400
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I'd be willing to bet $50 that the Chiefs do not take a QB.

Even more if it's someone in Eastern Iowa.
No, sorry. I am on that side of the bet. I am looking for Genoholics who are willing to part with their money.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:48 AM   #401
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A Chad Pennington/Will Shields debate. I knew the day would come if I was patient.
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Brees and Favre were at the top of the 2nd round. And Staubach would have been first round if it hadn't been for the whole Navy thing.
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:31 AM   #405
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