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Old 03-05-2013, 10:03 AM  
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The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:46 PM   #511
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:46 PM   #512
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Move back into the 2nd and draft Tyler Bray to sit behind Alex Smith for a season or two...
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:48 PM   #513
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:50 PM   #514
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NFL Film's Greg Cosell believes Matt Barkley is a 4th round prospect.

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Old 03-06-2013, 02:51 PM   #515
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The Chiefs are not choosing a QB at #1 overall. Period. They're trading their second round pick for a veteran QB.

This mindless obsession with choosing a developmental QB at #1 overall isn't just borderline retarded, it's full blown AIDS retard territory.
Now you're back to this dumb shit?

Who cares if the quarterback is drafted with the top pick or a pick in the 20s in a year where the talent is supposedly the same from top to bottom?

I doubt the Packers regret spending a first round pick on a qb that sat on the bench for 3 years...or the 49ers taking a quarterback in the second that say for nearly 2 years...or the Giants trading the house, barn, car and everything else for Eli with the intention of him not playing right away...or the Bengals drafting Carson Palmer first overall with intentions of him sitting his whole rookie year.

I don't think Geno needs that much time, but the Mooch interview brought up concerns for me and I'm sure those were apparent to Reid in his interview, as well.

Now, none of that means we are gonna draft Geno first overall, but your reasoning for not doing so has holes in it.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:51 PM   #516
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ESPN's Merril Hoge on Geno Smith: "In the last 10 years & in recent memory, I have never seen a more inconsistent thrower than Geno Smith."
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:53 PM   #517
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ESPN's Merril Hoge lit into West Virginia QB Geno Smith on NFL Live Wednesday, insisting there "ain't no way" the Cardinals will draft him at No. 7 overall.
Hoge compared Todd McShay mock-drafting Smith at No. 7 to Mel Kiper hyping up Mike Williams before the 2005 draft. "In the last ten years and in recent memory, I have never seen a more inconsistent thrower than Geno Smith," said Hoge. "I mean, receivers that are wide open, (he) absolutely completely misses them. I got frustrated by watching him. ... You cannot be that inconsistent in college and then fix that in the National Football League. Decision making, I thought under pressure he was below, below average. ... There ain't no way the Cardinals are gonna draft him. If Bruce Arians has anything to do about it, he will look at (Smith) and say there is no possible way." Mar 6 - 4:50 PM

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8326/geno-smith
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:55 PM   #518
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Now you're back to this dumb shit?
Hey, go **** yourself.

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Who cares if the quarterback is drafted with the top pick or a pick in the 20s in a year where the talent is supposedly the same from top to bottom?

I doubt the Packers regret spending a first round pick on a qb that sat on the bench for 3 years...or the 49ers taking a quarterback in the second that say for nearly 2 years...or the Giants trading the house, barn, car and everything else for Eli with the intention of him not playing right away...or the Bengals drafting Carson Palmer first overall with intentions of him sitting his whole rookie year.

I don't think Geno needs that much time, but the Mooch interview brought up concerns for me and I'm sure those were apparent to Reid in his interview, as well.
This isn't 2005, dummy. You don't take a ****ing QB at #1 overall and sit him on the bench. Period, end of story, go **** your retarded step-cousin again.

JFC, as I stated earlier, by sitting a QB taken #1 overall, you're putting pressure not only on the QB to perform in year two, you have to decide if you're picking up his option after YEAR THREE.

That's just plain ****ing stupid, and I don't care if it's your savior or some other stiff.

DUMB.
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:10 PM   #520
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ESPN's Merril Hoge lit into West Virginia QB Geno Smith on NFL Live Wednesday, insisting there "ain't no way" the Cardinals will draft him at No. 7 overall.
Hoge compared Todd McShay mock-drafting Smith at No. 7 to Mel Kiper hyping up Mike Williams before the 2005 draft. "In the last ten years and in recent memory, I have never seen a more inconsistent thrower than Geno Smith," said Hoge. "I mean, receivers that are wide open, (he) absolutely completely misses them. I got frustrated by watching him. ... You cannot be that inconsistent in college and then fix that in the National Football League. Decision making, I thought under pressure he was below, below average. ... There ain't no way the Cardinals are gonna draft him. If Bruce Arians has anything to do about it, he will look at (Smith) and say there is no possible way." Mar 6 - 4:50 PM

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8326/geno-smith
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:47 PM   #521
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Move back into the 2nd and draft Tyler Bray to sit behind Alex Smith for a season or two...
Bray is strong, and I wouldn't mind a second round pick for him, but like they said about Geno today - he is inconsistent. However, that arm strength is pretty nice. What is the word on him during the combine?
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Again, Mark Sanchez wasn't the perfect prospect according to these guys, but he was widely considered a 1st round-quality player.

Mark ****ing Sanchez, the guy who started less than 2 years' worth of games in college, had awful mid-range accuracy issues, and had an attitude problem. First round quality.

Geno Smith is the exact opposite of all those things. 2nd round quality. Or worse.

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Old 03-06-2013, 03:51 PM   #523
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NFL Live just went off on Geno. The Geno crowd wouldn't be happy.
Why would we care about what gimpy former running back has to say about the QB position?
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He not even a first rounder if he is in last years draft
He's a better prospect than Tannehil who went 8th you dumb****
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Why would we care about what gimpy former running back has to say about the QB position?
Using that analogy, why would we take anyone's word on this board as I am sure none here are former or active NFL QBs.

That is the thing that sucks about the draft - EVERYONE is sure they are correct. Then when the Byron Leftwiches, DeWayne Robertsons, Charles Rogers, and Jonathan Sullivans don't pan out no one remembers what EVERYONE said about them in February and March of that year.

I am more interested in Mel Kiper's and BossChief's 2009 mock draft than I am about their 2013 draft. Because at least that one has some factual information I can gauge their abilities upon.
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