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Old 03-05-2013, 10:03 AM  
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The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.
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Old 03-06-2013, 04:07 PM   #526
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This is 2013, not 2004 or 1994 or 1964. The #1 overall pick is expected to start DAY ONE and contribute. If that player can't start and contribute, you've wasted the pick.

Only two guys since 1995's KiJana Carter (ACL tear) taken number one overall didn't start immediately: Tim Couch (15 games) and you guessed it, JaMarcus Russell (4 games).

The #1 overall player better start from Day One or you've just ****ed your team.
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This isn't TWO THOUSAND ****ING THREE.

If a team chooses a player at #1 overall that has to sit out a ****ING YEAR, that player was OVERDRAFTED.


Dumbshit.
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Old 03-06-2013, 04:09 PM   #527
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I don't really care if we overdraft a QB or skill player at 1...I don't think there is anyone at 1 that is any better for this team that won't be there at 10 sadly...
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:12 PM   #528
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Dumbshit.
You're ****ing wrong, just as you've been all offseason.

Dumbshit.

Oh, and you can go **** yourself as well.
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:14 PM   #529
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Geno is the right call. He can carry Stanzi's clipboard.
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:19 PM   #530
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ESPN's Merril Hoge lit into West Virginia QB Geno Smith on NFL Live Wednesday, insisting there "ain't no way" the Cardinals will draft him at No. 7 overall.
Hoge compared Todd McShay mock-drafting Smith at No. 7 to Mel Kiper hyping up Mike Williams before the 2005 draft. "In the last ten years and in recent memory, I have never seen a more inconsistent thrower than Geno Smith," said Hoge. "I mean, receivers that are wide open, (he) absolutely completely misses them. I got frustrated by watching him. ... You cannot be that inconsistent in college and then fix that in the National Football League.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8326/geno-smith
So a guy with a 70%+ completion percentage is the most inconsistent thrower you've ever seen Merrell? Good lord, how does he have a job analyzing football.
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:24 PM   #531
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So a guy with a 70%+ completion percentage is the most inconsistent thrower you've ever seen Merrell? Good lord, how does he have a job analyzing football.
With 96TDs to like 22 Ints. Come on people are just being asses about Geno Smith and don't know shit trying be smarter than the production Geno Smith did on the field.
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:29 PM   #532
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So a guy with a 70%+ completion percentage is the most inconsistent thrower you've ever seen Merrell? Good lord, how does he have a job analyzing football.
Lot's of screens
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:33 PM   #533
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If sitting a player for a year is in the best interest of the player and team, then do it. I get that immediate returns are a factor to consider, but for a 2-14 team immediate returns should be of absolutely no consequence. Worrying about trying to perfect a dilapidated roster is like putting $2000 rims on a Gremlin.
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:36 PM   #534
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Lot's of screens
You can literally say that about any quarterback that has a completion percentage over 60%

Geno completed 70% of his passes because he has really good accuracy to all parts of the field.

The guy threw into double coverage more than anyone else and STILL only threw 6 picks because his accuracy is crazy good and he trusts his skills.

If we pass on him, as expected, he will make Reid look foolish for the next 10 years.
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If sitting a player for a year is in the best interest of the player and team, then do it. I get that immediate returns are a factor to consider, but for a 2-14 team immediate returns should be of absolutely no consequence. Worrying about trying to perfect a dilapidated roster is like putting $2000 rims on a Gremlin.
Exactly.
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I realize that I can not prove this, and people are fine to disagree, but I personally believe that Blaine Gabbert and Mark Sanchez underachieved because they weren't on the bench as a year of on-the-job training.

The draft is about improving your team, and that doesn't always mean improving it immediately. The desire for instantaneous results is why GMs are generally awful at their jobs.
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I realize that I can not prove this, and people are fine to disagree, but I personally believe that Blaine Gabbert and Mark Sanchez underachieved because they weren't on the bench as a year of on-the-job training.

The draft is about improving your team, and that doesn't always mean improving it immediately. The desire for instantaneous results is why GMs are generally awful at their jobs.
I believe the same thing. I also believe that Sanchez would have had a better chance at succeeding outside of NY.
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:49 PM   #539
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If sitting a player for a year is in the best interest of the player and team, then do it. I get that immediate returns are a factor to consider, but for a 2-14 team immediate returns should be of absolutely no consequence. Worrying about trying to perfect a dilapidated roster is like putting $2000 rims on a Gremlin.
That would never fly with the fan base, media and most likely, the Hunts.

It's 2013. If the number one overall pick can't start, he'll have the bust label.

I can't believe that people actually believe that a move like that, in 2013, wouldn't be detrimental to the player and the team.
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I realize that I can not prove this, and people are fine to disagree, but I personally believe that Blaine Gabbert and Mark Sanchez underachieved because they weren't on the bench as a year of on-the-job training.

The draft is about improving your team, and that doesn't always mean improving it immediately. The desire for instantaneous results is why GMs are generally awful at their jobs.
*See Aaron Rodgers.
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