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Old 03-06-2013, 06:10 PM  
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Chiefs are releasing RT Eric Winston

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Chiefs are releasing RT Eric Winston, per league source.



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@nfldraftscout there are some serious injury concerns


Looks like he's hurt

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Old 03-07-2013, 06:57 AM   #796
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Phil Loadholt (sp?) any good?
Well if you want your road grader RT, he's your guy. He's huge. Not sure how athletic he is from what I remember at OU. Can't say I've kept tabs on him in Minn.

I do like that he's play RT his whole career. I think Albert used (or still does) say that switching from LT to RT and back and forth isn't as easy as some people like to believe.
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Old 03-07-2013, 06:59 AM   #797
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You're thinking about Damion McIntosh.

Herm brought him in to play LT, then drafted Albert and put McIntosh at RT.

McIntosh bitched about it all year, including to the media.
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:01 AM   #798
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You're thinking about Damion McIntosh.

Herm brought him in to play LT, then drafted Albert and put McIntosh at RT.

McIntosh bitched about it all year, including to the media.
Ah okay thanks.

Anyways, I've always wondered if you're practiced your drops to say the left then asked to do it to the right if it's hard or not.

or.... maybe McIntosh was just whining about it and it was his deal.
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:04 AM   #799
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First off, to all of you that keep bitching about letting Winston go and having to replace him. He's ****in injured. Injured. I don't care what any site ranks him or how he did last year in run blocking. He's injured. We weren't going to trade him for anything. He's injured.
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:07 AM   #800
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First off, to all of you that keep bitching about letting Winston go and having to replace him. He's ****in injured. Injured. I don't care what any site ranks him or how he did last year in run blocking. He's injured. We weren't going to trade him for anything. He's injured.
Yeah, but how healthy is he?
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:09 AM   #801
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Mcintosh was the first Chiefs player that made me rage. (****ing young as hell.)
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:10 AM   #802
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I think it is very apparent we are trading Albert and taking Joeckel at #1. One would hope we would get a 1st rounder for Albert and someone like the Rams makes sense. They desperately need a LT and they have two 1st rounders. Lets say we get their #16 pick. Now we replace Albert with Joeckel and are still free to take either a QB, CB, OG or even possibly a WR at #16.

As for the RT spot, this is a deep FA market for OT's. One would assume we could find someone that is a upgrade in fit (better pass protector) there. Then there is Stephenson that could be the RT as well.
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:10 AM   #803
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McIntosh was decent at both LT and RT, and was let go with zero fanfare.

But he is a lesson, however, is how ****ing touchy LTs get when you try to move them.

And he was a below average one.
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:12 AM   #804
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I think it is very apparent we are trading Albert and taking Joeckel at #1. One would hope we would get a 1st rounder for Albert and someone like the Rams makes sense. They desperately need a LT and they have two 1st rounders. Lets say we get their #16 pick. Now we replace Albert with Joeckel and are still free to take either a QB, CB, OG or even possibly a WR at #16.

As for the RT spot, this is a deep FA market for OT's. One would assume we could find someone that is a upgrade in fit (better pass protector) there. Then there is Stephenson that could be the RT as well.
Agree with this.

Lions also need a LT. Backus is 35 and it'd be an upgrade.

I think we all need to prepare ourselves for disappointment in the value back for Albert.

I mean if we get our starting QB for a 2nd and a mid rounder next year, what makes us think we'll get a 1st for a LT? I just have a hard time seeing it.
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:15 AM   #805
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I think it is very apparent we are trading Albert and taking Joeckel at #1. One would hope we would get a 1st rounder for Albert and someone like the Rams makes sense. They desperately need a LT and they have two 1st rounders. Lets say we get their #16 pick. Now we replace Albert with Joeckel and are still free to take either a QB, CB, OG or even possibly a WR at #16.

As for the RT spot, this is a deep FA market for OT's. One would assume we could find someone that is a upgrade in fit (better pass protector) there. Then there is Stephenson that could be the RT as well.
Yeah, I think the hole at RT is being exaggerated here. We drafted two guys in the 2nd and 3rd round last year who could man the RT spot.

Now if we lose Albert, that's probably case closed on the 1st overall pick. I think Fisher is just as likely the pick as Joeckel, but the pick would be all but certain to be one of them.

I think the Rams would be a good fit. It's just hard to see a team dealing a high pick to the Chiefs and then paying Albert, when there are more than a couple pretty good LTs already on the market.
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:15 AM   #806
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Well I would expect us to get a first rounder in the fact he was a first rounder. He is a still a very good LT. If there is a team in the 1st round desperate for a LT but feels they won't be able to land one of the three elite LT's in the draft, wouldn't you expect them to be all over a deal for Albert? This is their chance to make a move at a position of need... seems like a fair trade to me.

There is no guarantee so and so LT will come to your franchise, making you over pay for that player in the long run. By trading for Albert, you may give up a 1st rounder but you get to dictate his salary in many ways..
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:18 AM   #807
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The sad thing is we will probably have no idea what deal, if any, Albert will be involved in until the Draft comes and goes.

If the Chiefs are trying to pull off a trade, it'll go right up to the moment the Chiefs are on the clock.
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:20 AM   #809
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Yeah, I think the hole at RT is being exaggerated here. We drafted two guys in the 2nd and 3rd round last year who could man the RT spot.

Now if we lose Albert, that's probably case closed on the 1st overall pick. I think Fisher is just as likely the pick as Joeckel, but the pick would be all but certain to be one of them.

I think the Rams would be a good fit. It's just hard to see a team dealing a high pick to the Chiefs and then paying Albert, when there are more than a couple pretty good LTs already on the market.
You're certainly cavalier over what would be a ****ing disaster.

If we take an OT with the first pick **** Dorsey, **** Reid, and **** ANYONE who defends them.
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:21 AM   #810
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I think it is very apparent we are trading Albert and taking Joeckel at #1. One would hope we would get a 1st rounder for Albert and someone like the Rams makes sense. They desperately need a LT and they have two 1st rounders. Lets say we get their #16 pick. Now we replace Albert with Joeckel and are still free to take either a QB, CB, OG or even possibly a WR at #16.

As for the RT spot, this is a deep FA market for OT's. One would assume we could find someone that is a upgrade in fit (better pass protector) there. Then there is Stephenson that could be the RT as well.
Well, not sure I care for it but that makes one hell of a lot more sense than using the tag on a Left Tackle just to move him to Right Tackle.
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