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Old 02-27-2013, 11:17 AM  
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Stone Temple Pilots fire lead singer

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Stone Temple Pilots has unceremoniously FIRED its lead singer Scott Weiland ... who's been the face of the seminal rock band for 20 years.

The group released an ominously curt statement today, saying, "Stone Temple Pilots have announced they have officially terminated Scott Weiland." They don't give any further explanation.

It's pretty shocking for several reasons ... the main being Weiland has been a core member of the group since it came together in 1986. His voice has become synonymous with STP's sound ... on hits like "Plush," "Sour Girl," and "Sex Type Thing."

Another reason this came out of nowhere ... Weiland denied rumors he was leaving the band just yesterday, telling Rolling Stone, "STP has not broken up. I haven't quit. I haven't been fired."

Rumors of a split began a couple of months ago when Slash said STP had fired Weiland.

STP reformed in 2008 after a 5-year hiatus and toured through last year -- but apparently it hasn't been working out.

So far, it's unclear who STP has in mind to replace Weiland ... if anyone.

Weiland is set to launch a solo tour next month.


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Old 03-07-2013, 03:24 PM   #106
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Old 03-07-2013, 03:25 PM   #107
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Dane, do you think we will ever get an Axel/Slash reunion in our lifetime?
I don't think it'll ever happen. Both have too much money, so that won't be a draw and they really don't like each other, at all. Hate is the more appropriate word.

Slash is happy with his current band with Myles and if he ever gets bored with touring and putting out albums every year, he'll likely turn to film scoring.
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:00 PM   #108
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This post illustrates perfectly what I tell young kids that want a career in the music business: Go to school.

Go to Berkelee School of Music, USC Film school, UCLA Film school, NYU, etc. There are very few people working successfully (and by that, I mean actually earning "real" money) in the music business that didn't graduate from one of those prestigious schools.
those prestigious schools cost hella bread; Daddy can't cook that much meth since they put all those restrictions on the Sudafed (dorky winky thing to indicate sarcasm here)

Seriously, I went to UCM (formerly CMSU) for audio engineering, but once I got out playing in bands and working sound in clubs, etc. and wound up in CoMo at MU, I decided to change to something more 'practical', school-wise. I figured, I'll pretty much always be able to find work in music around here at this point...but that may not always be the case. I'm young and brash and some people find that endearing and charismatic (in person, at least) but that shit only lasts so long, and it takes real substance to make a career out of music to make any scratch. I mean, tons of really talented awesome people wind up broke and working shit jobs because they couldn't weather the storm, and maybe just put all their eggs into that 'star trip.' I ain't trying to be a star...just wanna make good music. And get paid, if I can, in the process.

I mean, we already get paid usually anywhere from $300-500 a night to play mostly originals, which is amazing and great. Had a few thousand-dollar nights here and there. But that's just in Central MO. It's different everywhere else.

Too dumb for New York, and too ugly for LA is indeed how I feel.

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Whether it Film/TV composition and production, Music Supervision, marketing and promotions, songwriting, etc., it's nearly impossible to compete with well-educated and extremely talented individuals that had had the benefit of a music education taught by the world's best teachers.
I know.

that's why 'good enough' doesn't cut it.

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You're a mid-20's guy in Missouri that's needed more than nine months to cut 12 songs. I know film and TV composer/producers that create 12 Master Quality tracks per day.

It's a really, really tough road otherwise. Good luck, Dude!
Sure, but those cats either have constant access to the studio or have the gear in their house.

I have Pro Tools and a Tascam reel to reel 8-track. I have some decent mics and good preamps...I can make some really good-sounding demos.

In order to have access to all the preamps and compressors and $2k vocal mics, along the ability to use all that gear, I have to pay an hourly rate at a pro studio. So we duck in and out as money and schedules permit. We cut basic tracks to get drums, and have been overdubbing on top of that. Not cutting any corners, not saying 'good enough', etc

Like, I have a bunch of multitracks from live shows, and there are AUD and SBD recordings of us on archive.org and bt.etree.org, etc. So there's no point in just trying to replicate that in the studio...I feel we should push ourselves to actually be great.

So who knows...it might be enough to get someone interested in working with us...(dorky cross-mouthed guy here)
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It was mind boggling watching those guys run out of bounds again and again and again. I still can't believe it.
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:06 PM   #109
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All of those "Live Concerts" go through an enormous amount of audio post-production, including tuning the vocals with with either Autotune or Melodyne.

That said, the new GNR band is comprised of some ridiculously talented players but to me, they come off as bland because they're so good. Slash and Duff and Izzy and Steven were "feel" players. The difference between Matt and Adler's drumming is shocking and Matt's songs don't "feel" anywhere near as "good" as Steven's. This was no more apparent than their Rock And Roll Hall of Fame induction, where Guns and Roses sounded like Guns and Roses (minus Axl).
yeah, Izzy said one of the biggest reasons he left was because he didn't like the way the band's music had changed.

His sobriety and Axl's erratic behavior were the other main contributing factors.

Poor Izzy; he's so scarred from LSD (lead singer dysfunction) that when VR was forming, it was him, Duff, Slash, and Matt, and Izzy was down...as long as they didn't get a ****ing lead singer.

Izzy just wanted to tour clubs with him and Duff singing...

maybe they could still get that together.

WAY more likely than the original Guns ever getting back together.
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:13 PM   #110
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I don't think it'll ever happen. Both have too much money, so that won't be a draw and they really don't like each other, at all. Hate is the more appropriate word.

Slash is happy with his current band with Myles and if he ever gets bored with touring and putting out albums every year, he'll likely turn to film scoring.
I don't think I could just let bygones be bygones if I were Slash at this point.

Axl...destroyed that band. I know that drugs and egos were out of hand, etc. but Axl was (supposedly) relatively sober, and could've kept that ship together if he had wanted to.

Instead, he wanted to turn the baddest boozy bluesy rock band this side of guys not named Stones or Crowes into Elton Queen Inch Nails.

A damn shame...
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:25 PM   #111
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All of those "Live Concerts" go through an enormous amount of audio post-production, including tuning the vocals with with either Autotune or Melodyne.

That said, the new GNR band is comprised of some ridiculously talented players but to me, they come off as bland because they're so good. Slash and Duff and Izzy and Steven were "feel" players. The difference between Matt and Adler's drumming is shocking and Matt's songs don't "feel" anywhere near as "good" as Steven's. This was no more apparent than their Rock And Roll Hall of Fame induction, where Guns and Roses sounded like Guns and Roses (minus Axl).
Yeah, you could kinda sense that trickery was at work at certain points.

I seriously couldnt agree more that a given players "feel" can totally change the dynamics of a song, Steven Adler? LOVED his style and no one has even come close to it yet in GNR, what he may have lacked in technical virtuosity he made up for with sheer instinct and muscle, i'd take him ANY day over Sorum, he was just too robotic or something in many ways... he was kinda the Bruce Kulick of GNR drummers. Whoever was playing in london was ok, i guess.

Gotta say though, that i REALLY enjoyed what the new lead guitarist brought to each song... nobody will ever replace Slash, but his style was more than enjoyable, to quickly try to categorize him i'd say he's more technical and futuristic... kinda Muse on steroids, if that makes any sense.

But yep, no replacement players will ever have quite the same magic as the original lineup in ANY band, its literally like chemistry imo, some people just belong together.
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If you go see GnR and drink enough beer, you won't give a shit who's in the band. They sounded great in KC.
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I don't think I could just let bygones be bygones if I were Slash at this point.

Axl...destroyed that band. I know that drugs and egos were out of hand, etc. but Axl was (supposedly) relatively sober, and could've kept that ship together if he had wanted to.

Instead, he wanted to turn the baddest boozy bluesy rock band this side of guys not named Stones or Crowes into Elton Queen Inch Nails.

A damn shame...
man, you TOTALLY had me up until you compared them to the Black Crowes.

I always enjoyed them... but, those guys couldnt sniff GNR's coke and heroin soaked jock.
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Yeah, you could kinda sense that trickery was at work at certain points.

I seriously couldnt agree more that a given players "feel" can totally change the dynamics of a song, Steven Adler? LOVED his style and no one has even come close to it yet in GNR, what he may have lacked in technical virtuosity he made up for with sheer instinct and muscle, i'd take him ANY day over Sorum, he was just too robotic or something in many ways... he was kinda the Bruce Kulick of GNR drummers. Whoever was playing in london was ok, i guess.

Gotta say though, that i REALLY enjoyed what the new lead guitarist brought to each song... nobody will ever replace Slash, but his style was more than enjoyable, to quickly try to categorize him i'd say he's more technical and futuristic... kinda Muse on steroids, if that makes any sense.

But yep, no replacement players will ever have quite the same magic as the original lineup in ANY band, its literally like chemistry imo, some people just belong together.
Yeah, Ron Blumenthal (Bumblefoot) is a MONSTER guitarist. Richard Fortus is cool but I'm not down with D.J. He's a decent player but I used to hang at the Rainbow when he thought he was the shit in Beautiful Creatures (which is strange because Joe Leste is the opposite of that) and he always came across as a poser, with all the obligatory tats and piercings.

Matt's a great drummer and he was very good on The Cult's Beyond Good & Evil record and good in VR. It's just that you have to create music with Matt for it to work because his timing is just so dead on. You can get the music to swing but you have to swing to him, not the other way around.

Adler was (and still is, somewhat) a wreck but there's no denying his groove and feel. That band was magic and it's too bad it didn't last.
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If you go see GnR and drink enough beer, you won't give a shit who's in the band. They sounded great in KC.
Which is why they're still selling out venues all over the world.

More power to them. Enjoy!
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Its funny you mention Joe Leste, Dane... Bang Tango was one of the most underrated bands of the 80's.

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yeah, Izzy said one of the biggest reasons he left was because he didn't like the way the band's music had changed.

His sobriety and Axl's erratic behavior were the other main contributing factors.

Poor Izzy; he's so scarred from LSD (lead singer dysfunction) that when VR was forming, it was him, Duff, Slash, and Matt, and Izzy was down...as long as they didn't get a ****ing lead singer.

Izzy just wanted to tour clubs with him and Duff singing...

maybe they could still get that together.

WAY more likely than the original Guns ever getting back together.
I knew a bunch of guys that auditioned for Velvet Revolver, from Mike Matejevic from Steelheart and the Mark Wahlberg movie, to Keith Nelson and Josh Todd (Keith actually has some writing credits on the first album) and many more.

Slash didn't like any of them because he wanted to move forward and sound modern. He didn't want to sound "80's" in any way. So they hired Weiland.
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Here are my two faves from those guys, some of the best stuff from that era imo...



Joe, seriously, is one of the nicest guys ever. Just seriously down to earth, normal, not wealthy or even rich, normal dude. He's fun to hang out with as well.
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