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Old 03-02-2013, 08:14 AM  
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Joeckel vs. Fisher

Assuming we go LT to free up that cap space. In my humble opinion Joeckel anchors better but loses leverage in pass pro above the waist. His feet and awareness are impressive. Fisher plays with much more upper body strength and is a true mauler in the run game. Has a much tougher demeanor and appears to try harder. Now is this because he has to in order to make up for his technical flaws and lack of superior foot speed??

Either way it's 1 and 1a between the two but right now I'm liking Joeckel if we run a true Andy Reid pass happy offense and Fisher if we play off our existing run game strength.
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:16 AM   #16
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Very tough to compare the two. Joeckel held up very well against stout competition in the SEC while Fisher saw the likes of MAC opponents for the most part. I can't say I have an opinion one way or the other.
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:25 PM   #17
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The other day on Path To the Draft, the talking heads there said they thought Fisher and Joeckel would be "solid pros" but not outstanding OTs. They thought Johnson had the highest ceiling but also the lowest floor. They said that Joeckel had the highest floor of all of the OT's .

I really don't want to take a "solid pro" at #1 but that may be all there is available.
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Old 03-07-2013, 03:26 PM   #18
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The Chiefs prefer Joeckel over Fisher, according to Ian Rapoport.
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Old 03-07-2013, 03:29 PM   #19
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The Chiefs prefer Joeckel over Fisher, according to Ian Rapoport.
Fisher it is, then.
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Old 03-07-2013, 06:02 PM   #20
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The thing about Joeckel that rubs me the wrong way besides blocking for an extremely mobile QB is that he looks like a soft bitch. He's not built like a A grade OT, he may be a good technician but he doesn't look like a great athlete.
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Old 03-08-2013, 10:49 AM   #21
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The thing about Joeckel that rubs me the wrong way besides blocking for an extremely mobile QB is that he looks like a soft bitch. He's not built like a A grade OT, he may be a good technician but he doesn't look like a great athlete.
Exactly. Whenever I hear "technician" it is code for soft. I don't think Joeckel has a mean streak...I think he catches far too many blocks, and he's no better than average in his run blocking.

There is no way he is #1 pick in the draft material in my book.
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Old 03-09-2013, 10:24 AM   #22
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My money is on the Chiefs selecting Fisher 1.1 and making him their RT. The truefans will boo and I will cheer.

The question is which 3-4 DE do we sign to replace Dorsey....Seymour?
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:05 AM   #23
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Old 08-19-2014, 04:45 PM   #25
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Anyone wish the Chiefs would have went with Joeckel in retrospect ?
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Old 08-19-2014, 06:28 PM   #26
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I don't. He's soft imo.
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It was the worst draft class in recent history ... it is what it is....
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This. I don't get why a lot of fans just expect that there is a Peyton Manning or Elway every year? Just because a player is drafted #1 overall doesn't mean he's going to be an elite player. I saw some say that if Fisher or Joeckel would have come out in 2014 they would have gone around 13th. That's telling.....
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Old 08-19-2014, 10:39 PM   #29
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This. I don't get why a lot of fans just expect that there is a Peyton Manning or Elway every year? Just because a player is drafted #1 overall doesn't mean he's going to be an elite player. I saw some say that if Fisher or Joeckel would have come out in 2014 they would have gone around 13th. That's telling.....
Pretty much. Just chose the wrong year to suck. There wasn't a single top talent that year that didn't have a major red flag on them.
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Anyone wish the Chiefs would have went with Joeckel in retrospect ?
Joekel and Decastro?...
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