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Old 02-27-2013, 09:59 AM  
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Alex Smith Traded to Chiefs

Well, it looks like the deal is done.



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49ers have completed a trade with the Chiefs for Alex Smith, tho can't be official til March 12. Chiefs really made a commitment to Smith


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Deal has been agreed upon between Chiefs and 49ers. Compensation unclear but I'm told again Chiefs have made a clear commitment to Smith.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:00 PM   #4501
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Natural bender with outstanding recovery quickness, lateral agility and balance to mirror and sustain — is seldom on the ground or beaten in pass protection. Plays with a very solid base. Throws his hips in the hole and wins with quickness at the snap. Controls defenders with his hands. Is athletic running the field and can connect on the second level. Good football intelligence. Quick learner. Flipped sides and has proven he can play in a left- or right-hand stance. Versatility is a big plus — can play either tackle position and has the quickness to handle movement on the inside. Solid character. Very committed, dedicated approach — has not missed a practice or game. Is a tough, durable, hardworking four-year starter.
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Does not look the part — is knock-kneed, fleshy-bodied and pear-shaped. Lacks ideal height and arm length for the outside. Not a nasty finisher or fiery run blocker. Not strong-handed or violent with his punch. Tends to set tall and catches a lot. Undisciplined eyes — late to see and adjust to some stunts. Conditioning has been a concern, and diet might require some additional monitoring.
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A model of consistency on and off the field, Allen makes the game look easy and is one of the best pure pass protectors in this year’s draft, with unique balance, coordination and agility to warrant late-first-round consideration as a left tackle prospect. Versatility, football smarts and durability could allow him to start immediately and play at a high level for the next 10 years.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:09 PM   #4502
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Indy - 20-13 Quinn 2 INTs, 32 QB rating
Oakland - 15-0 Quinn 1 INT, No TDS, 54 QB rating
Oakland first game 26-16 - Quinn 1 INT 16.7 QB rating, Cassel 1 INT, 1 Fumble lost.
Pittsburgh - Cassel 11 for 26, 1 INT in OT, no touchdowns
Denver first game - 17-9 loss, Quinn 50 QB rating, 1 INT
Baltimore - 9-6 loss, Cassel 4 turnovers, fumble on the goal line.

The defense played well in all those games but couldn't overcome the shitty QB play.
I'll take your word for it since I don't remember watching a single KC game.

But the highlighted part is the Story of Smith's career. We've had a great D for years, stifled by shitty QB play.

It finally took Harbaugh to make him mediocre and we started winning.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:12 PM   #4503
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You are kidding right? Who do they report to and who hired them? You really think all of that is coincidental decision making by Carl, ***** and now Dorsey? Seriously?

I have this bridge that is a really good deal....
Both Reid and Dorsey have a history of taking QB's they just felt this class sucks.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:13 PM   #4504
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Both Reid and Dorsey have a history of taking QB's they just felt this class sucks.
Once again......your opinion.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:14 PM   #4505
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Once again......your opinion.
And 90% of the people agree with it.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:15 PM   #4506
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And 90% of the people agree with it.
74.7% of stats used are 60% correct.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:17 PM   #4507
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And 90% of the people agree with it.
yea this draft class is really bad.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:18 PM   #4508
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this is not a bad draft class. Jesus H Christ. 2009 was a bad draft class. This class lacks top-shelf prospects but makes up for it with a huge amount of depth.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:22 PM   #4509
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And 90% of the people agree with it.
We will see on draft day I guess. If 2 guys go in the first half of the 1st round then obviously that's not the case.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:27 PM   #4510
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Jeff Allen always seemed like an odd fit at guard to me. Then again, he seemed like an odd fit as a 2nd round pick to me.

Maybe it is as simple as Dorsey and Reid not thinking that Winston fits their style and they can clear a roster spot for a better/younger player.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:32 PM   #4511
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Both Reid and Dorsey have a history of taking QB's they just felt this class sucks.
The point is, they work for Clark Hunt. The early evidence is they are doing the same ****ing thing the Chiefs have done for 30 years. Find the best excuse not to draft a QB 1st round, get a new hope recycled QB on the roster and sell tickets.

Don't get me wrong, I like what happened this week, but the bottom line is at the most important position on the team, they, Dorsey and Reid have done the same ****ing thing that has been done for 30 years.

The evidence is very ****ing clear to me, they aren't changing my mind until I see them pick a QB in the first round.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:35 PM   #4512
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The point is, they work for Clark Hunt. The early evidence is they are doing the same ****ing thing the Chiefs have done for 30 years. Find the best excuse not to draft a QB 1st round, get a new hope recycled QB on the roster and sell tickets.

Don't get me wrong, I like what happened this week, but the bottom line is at the most important position on the team, they, Dorsey and Reid have done the same ****ing thing that has been done for 30 years.

The evidence is very ****ing clear to me, they aren't changing my mind until I see them pick a QB in the first round.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:39 PM   #4513
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The point is, they work for Clark Hunt. The early evidence is they are doing the same ****ing thing the Chiefs have done for 30 years. Find the best excuse not to draft a QB 1st round, get a new hope recycled QB on the roster and sell tickets.

Don't get me wrong, I like what happened this week, but the bottom line is at the most important position on the team, they, Dorsey and Reid have done the same ****ing thing that has been done for 30 years.

The evidence is very ****ing clear to me, they aren't changing my mind until I see them pick a QB in the first round.
If you think that Clark Hunt is telling them what he wants, I'll tell you are 100% wrong. Dorsey and Reid will confer with Clark about players, but Clark never once told either guy that they had to get someone like Alex Smith.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:41 PM   #4514
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If you think that Clark Hunt is telling them what he wants, I'll tell you are 100% wrong. Dorsey and Reid will confer with Clark about players, but Clark never once told either guy that they had to get someone like Alex Smith.
Man that is a total kick in the balls... I was hoping the new regime would have more sack than this...


Disappointing to say the least...
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Clark will listen to Reid and Dorsey. He isnt running it. He knows better. And Reid and Dorsey will take a QB sometime throughout the draft
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