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Old 03-06-2013, 02:23 PM  
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Rand Paul filibusters Brennan nomination for CIA director

“I will speak today until the president responds and says, ‘No, we won’t kill Americans in cafes. No, we won’t kill you at home at night,’” Mr. Paul said early on in the filibuster, which began at 11:47 a.m. and by early afternoon showed no signs of slowing down.

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Old 03-08-2013, 07:12 PM   #346
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Those still defending the position of the POTUS in this situation remind me of a wife who refuses to testify against her husband in a domestic violence case. They are idiots, know they are wrong, and hate admitting they are wrong.

The same ones on this thread who are defending the POTUS would be the first ones decrying GWB for the exact same actions. You are childish and close minded idiots.
They'd cry murder if Bush farted in the same county they were in, but would smile and enjoy Obama taking a shit in their mouth.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:30 PM   #347
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Were you afraid of drones before Obama? Were you afraid of planes, helicopters, snipers, etc., before drones? Since there were plently of ways for the govt to kill you prior to Obama, this can't just be about drones. It must just simply be about Obama.
This is all about a dynamically evolving technology that is being brought from the "battlefield" of a "war" into our own country. It's not my fault that you are either so incapable of understanding the impact of that technology, or are so entrenched in your own partisanship, that you can't see that.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:53 PM   #348
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I do come at this from a different perspective than most but. I trust no politician. They all lie to us at some point, even Obama.
Here-this article hits some of the high points regarding why this filibuster (debate) was important. I found this part to be very well written:

The back-and-forth highlighted a debate within the Republican Party that pits the old guard — whose fingerprints are all over the nation’s military efforts in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya — against some of the Republican Party’s rising stars, several of whom rode into Congress as part of the backlash against growth of government and federal spending that started under President George W. Bush and continued on Mr. Obama’s watch.

“There was definitely a trend there among the newer members,” said Sen. Mike Lee, Utah Republican. “Those who have been elected to the Senate, or the election before that, we tend to have this viewpoint in common. The view that we need to look out for individual liberties of Americans we ought not just take it for granted that our government is going to behave responsibility and respect both the privacy and the lives of Americans.”

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Old 03-08-2013, 08:10 PM   #349
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This is all about a dynamically evolving technology that is being brought from the "battlefield" of a "war" into our own country, our homes and on our shoulders watching what we read. It's not my fault that you are either so incapable of understanding the impact of that technology, or are so entrenched in your own partisanship, that you can't see that.
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:24 PM   #350
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This is all about a dynamically evolving technology that is being brought from the "battlefield" of a "war" into our own country. It's not my fault that you are either so incapable of understanding the impact of that technology, or are so entrenched in your own partisanship, that you can't see that.
It is about killing someone. The method barely matters. Are you denying it would be fairly easy for the govt to kill someone if they wanted to in the pre-drone era? Probably easier without as big of a mess to clean up afterwards as well. Seriously, it is actually as if you and others are under the impression that a killing could not be carried out before.
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:28 PM   #351
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It is about killing someone. The method barely matters. Are you denying it would be fairly easy for the govt to kill someone if they wanted to in the pre-drone era? Probably easier without as big of a mess to clean up afterwards as well. Seriously, it is actually as if you and others are under the impression that a killing could not be carried out before.
As I said, you either don't understand the technology or you're blinded by partisanship.
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:40 PM   #352
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As I said, you either don't understand the technology or you're blinded by partisanship.
So please explain how the danger of being killed by the govt is different now. I say they could kill you just as easily, or probably more easily, without a drone.
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So please explain how the danger of being killed by the govt is different now. I say they could kill you just as easily, or probably more easily, without a drone.
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So please explain how the danger of being killed by the govt is different now. I say they could kill you just as easily, or probably more easily, without a drone.
Look, I'm not going to keep doing this. I've mentioned it in this thread, in another thread, and it's not worth my time to explain it over and over again. You either get it, or you don't. Or you won't allow yourself to think, say or do anything that doesn't support your political party. Either way I'm done explaining this to people who really aren't willing to listen.
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Look, I'm not going to keep doing this. I've mentioned it in this thread, in another thread, and it's not worth my time to explain it over and over again. You either get it, or you don't. Or you won't allow yourself to think, say or do anything that doesn't support your political party. Either way I'm done explaining this to people who really aren't willing to listen.
OK, BEP.

And there are plenty in my party that have drone hysteria and disgaree with me.
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OK, BEP.

And there are plenty in my party that have drone hysteria and disgaree with me.
Do yourself a favor and research the issue yourself.
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