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Old 03-08-2013, 11:37 PM  
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Hey chiefs fans

Fans of the Kansas City Chiefs. It's been a long time and alot of bad decisions and bad breaks. 18 Years really, since the Chiefs were relevant.

I know you all forgot, it's been soooo long. Guess what? This is how a young, smart, hungry GM and head coach go about improving the product on the field now, and setting the franchise up for Yeats of success in the future.

These guys are movers and shakers. They are doing what it takes, not only to win now, but it's going to be evident by the end of FA and the draft, that the future is being planned as well.

So, this is how it is done. You can save this post and call me out in five years if you wish, but I'm pretty sure we've finally got a leadership team we can count on.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:12 AM   #46
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William Bartee, Eddie Freeman, Junior Siavii, Patrick Surtain, Bernie Pollard, Brandon Flowers, Javier Arenas, Rodney Hudson, Jeff Allen.

The Chiefs second round picks since 2000.

Oh, the horror of losing a second round pick. How will they survive it?
Comparing the current regime to the previous extremely incompetent regimes?

That's refreshing.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:14 AM   #47
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Courtney Upshaw, Osemele, Ray Rice, Terrance Cody, Sergio Kindle, Paul Kruger--2nd rounders of the Ravens from 2008-2012.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:15 AM   #48
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The Chiefs are also a god awful franchise. I have a feeling that the Ravens, Giants, and 49ers of late have made better use of said picks.
Which is what I'm hoping this regime can bring to KC. But saying they are doing well so far is premature and utterly dumb.

Most good teams build through the draft. That is much harder to do when you give up your 2nd for a game managing QB.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:15 AM   #49
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William Bartee, Eddie Freeman, Junior Siavii, Patrick Surtain, Bernie Pollard, Brandon Flowers, Matt Cassel, Javier Arenas, Rodney Hudson, Jeff Allen.

The Chiefs second round picks since 2000.

Oh, the horror of losing a second round pick. How will they survive it?
Was this a serious argument?

If you do your job you get Brandon Flowers in the 2nd.

If you don't you get nothing and then Dane McCloud sets up straw man arguments on Chiefsplanet.

We're going to look back on this trade in 4 years and think "it was great that we got Alex Smith and won nothing when player X could have been a long-term starter for us."
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:15 AM   #50
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Comparing the current regime to the previous extremely incompetent regimes?

That's refreshing.


Comparing Alex Smith to Matt Cassel isn't?
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Dane is gonna have to leave again after we draft Geno.

He faces monstrous backlash.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:16 AM   #51
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Was this a serious argument?

If you do your job you get Brandon Flowers in the 2nd.

If you don't you get nothing and then Dane McCloud sets up straw man arguments on Chiefsplanet.

We're going to look back on this trade in 4 years and think "it was great that we got Alex Smith and won nothing when player X could have been a long-term starter for us."
No, no, NO!

If you ****tards can tell us that Alex Smith=Matt Cassel, then I have every ****ing right to display the Chiefs last 10 second rounders.

See how that works, ****boy?
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Dane is gonna have to leave again after we draft Geno.

He faces monstrous backlash.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:16 AM   #52
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Courtney Upshaw, Osemele, Ray Rice, Terrance Cody, Sergio Kindle, Paul Kruger--2nd rounders of the Ravens from 2008-2012.
Didn't Clark pick Pioli over DeCosta?

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Old 03-09-2013, 12:17 AM   #53
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With that logic, you can pretty much compare anything shitty to anything else that's shitty.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:18 AM   #54
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Comparing Alex Smith to Matt Cassel isn't?
Do you need an elite QB to win in this league?

Is Alex elite?

Answer those two questions, then tell me the Alex Smith trade was a good one.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:19 AM   #55
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Do you need an elite QB to win in this league?

Is Alex elite?

Answer those two questions, then tell me the Alex Smith trade was a good one.
Nice. Moving the bedpans.

I hope you don't treat your patients with the same bedside manner of deflecting questions and arguments.
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Dane is gonna have to leave again after we draft Geno.

He faces monstrous backlash.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:19 AM   #56
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With that logic, you can pretty much compare anything shitty to anything else that's shitty.
No shit. My point exactly. That's why Dane's point was stupid as ****
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:19 AM   #57
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rah, rah, rah!

So, this is how it is done. rah, rah, rah!
Yep, this is how you get to 8-8.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:19 AM   #58
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I'll wait until after FA and the draft to see how they did for the offseason. They've done a good job so far though.

The only thing I'm worried about is Reid going all out in FA like he did in Philly, which really bit him in the ass. It's been proven over and and over and again winning SB's requires you to build through the draft, not FA.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:20 AM   #59
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Do you need an elite QB to win in this league?

Is Alex elite?

Answer those two questions, then tell me the Alex Smith trade was a good one.
Alex Smith doesn't need to be an elite QB for this trade to be beneficial.

For example, if KC took Geno/Barkley at 1.1 and Smith didn't play at an elite level but served as an effective mentor and helped them progress faster/better, would you still think the trade wasn't a good one?
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:21 AM   #60
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Nice. Moving the bedpans.

I hope you don't treat your patients with the same bedside manner of deflecting questions and arguments.
Okay, fine I'll answer yours.

Alex Smith is better than Cassel, but it will not translate into dramatically better play at the QB position that this franchise needs.

Now answer mine.
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