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Old 03-07-2013, 12:49 PM  
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Chiefs hope to keep Dorsey

Chiefs hope to keep Dorsey, but Starks tag could complicate things

Posted by Mike Florio on March 7, 2013, 10:08 AM EST

Five years ago, the Chiefs picked defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey with the fifth overall selection in the draft.

The next year, the 4-3 interior lineman saw the Chiefs install a 3-4 defense.

And while the Chiefs are sticking with a 3-4 defense under new coach Andy Reid, they hope to keep Dorsey on the roster.

But here’s the problem, from the Chiefs’ perspective. The removal of Dolphins defensive tackle Randy Starks from the open market via the franchise tag is expected to result in more interest in Dorsey.

Unless a new deal is done between Dorsey and the Chiefs in the next two days, Dorsey will be able to explore the open market, via his agent talking to the teams.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:18 AM   #61
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Rather have Canty or Jenkins at this point. When Dorsey was out I didnt see any noticeable difference with his replacement, Pituouluolioli or WTF his name is.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:53 AM   #62
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I can't believe there are still dumbasses who don't understand what a 2 gap DL is instructed to do, much less that Dorsey did exactly as he was instructed to very, very well.
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:18 AM   #63
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Rather have Canty or Jenkins at this point. When Dorsey was out I didnt see any noticeable difference with his replacement, Pituouluolioli or WTF his name is.
Agreed.
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:53 AM   #64
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I can't believe there are still dumbasses who don't understand what a 2 gap DL is instructed to do, much less that Dorsey did exactly as he was instructed to very, very well.
can't believe there are still dumbasses who don't understand that after 1st down, we change from the 2 gap 34 into a pass rush nickel or dime formation and Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey still could not get a pass rush in a pass rush package.
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:57 AM   #65
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Glenn has been nothing more than just a guy in KC. He has never been special in any way. If he leaves, good for him. I wouldn't overpay for him in any way.
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:59 AM   #66
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Glenn has been nothing more than just a guy in KC. He has never been special in any way. If he leaves, good for him. I wouldn't overpay for him in any way.
I've felt bad for him. He could be a great DT in a 4-3.

This isn't his scheme. He wants to rush the passer and push upfield.

I hope we do let him go and I wish him well...
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:15 AM   #67
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can't believe there are still dumbasses who don't understand that after 1st down, we change from the 2 gap 34 into a pass rush nickel or dime formation and Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey still could not get a pass rush in a pass rush package.
What else did you see in the land of make believe?

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Old 03-08-2013, 10:35 PM   #68
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Old 03-08-2013, 10:40 PM   #69
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I've felt bad for him. He could be a great DT in a 4-3.

This isn't his scheme. He wants to rush the passer and push upfield.

I hope we do let him go and I wish him well...
He COULD have been a great 4-3 DT IF his knees weren't junk. Unfortunately he is a shell of what he was in college. He could never recover from that knee injury he sustained at LSU.
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Warren Sapp still calls the 3-4 years in Oakland his worst time in the NFL.

It's because his speed, quickness, athleticism and get off were wasted.

If we can get Glenn back on a "show me" short term deal, it could be an extremely high reward and low risk.

I doubt anyone else is willing to offer him a substantial contract at this point...it's worth the risk.
Sapp was washed up when he got to oak.
It was pretty well established right after we drafted Dorsey that he never played the same technique as Sapp at LSU. He actually played mostly a 2 gap scheme believe it or not.
He wasn't shooting gaps, he was just mauling the guy in front of him. That skill didn't translate.
That said, I hope we offer him something. Hes a hell of a run stopper and maybe he does better in a one gap but its not as if he didn't get a chance in other packages.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:45 PM   #71
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LSU had him 1 and 2 gapping. Watch some YouTube videos from his college days and you WILL see him shoot gaps.

He may not still have the explosion he had back then, but to say he only 2gapped at lsu is wrong...but most of the time, he was indeed a 2 gap defender.
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