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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 03-11-2013, 05:33 PM   #3901
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:36 PM   #3902
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:06 PM   #3903
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In this particular case, I strongly believe the problem was the Al Sharptons and the media, and the Martin lawyer & family plastering false information, and demonizing Zimmerman for WEEKS. Remember that the only side issuing statements was TM's side.....

It was only after some of the details started coming out that people began to realize that much of what was said initially was biased in favor of Martin and heavily against Zimmerman.....All you have to do is go back through the thread for a living history.

The media and TM family made this into a racial hate crime from day 1 , thinking Zimmerman was white and trying to hide the fact their son was very troubled.
I would agree with that. Look, I am just as disgusted at the way the Trayvon supporters made Zimmerman's life a living hell. But I'm talking about pure culpability here. I feel sorry for Zimmerman, but I do not like him because of who he is based on what we know, not based on what the Trayvon supporters believe.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:38 PM   #3904
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I feel sorry for Zimmerman, but I do not like him because of who he is based on what we know, not based on what the Trayvon supporters believe.
The ironic thing is that his punishment will probably end up being lighter because of the rush to judge him guilty of racism etc....if the prosecution just lets the grand jury toss out murder 2, and stick with manslaughter, he may have been sentenced to up to 15 years. Throwing the book at him, trumping up the charges, using emotional attacks, using the media to stain his name, hiding evidence........disbanding the grand jury the DAY before they were set to convene......doctoring audio & video......not vetting star witnesses......its going to backfire IMO.

I don't like him or dislike him, I just believe in fair trials. No matter how much we dislike someone....they are owed a fair trial.....

I don't care how much money the prosecution spends on jury consultants.......they're not going to be able to pick a jury to convict on a murder charge.
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:04 AM   #3905
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:18 AM   #3906
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I doubt that a dispatcher puts high priority on a 9-1-1 report of person walking down the street slower than expected considering that it is raining.

Zimmerman may or may not have had a legal justification for the exact moment that he pulled the trigger, who knows?

But he did a few things wrong. Just because this story has been made into a national fiasco in some unattractive ways, does not mean that it was not an avoidable catastrophe from the start.

This seems to be a plotline were all of the protagonists are in the wrong.

I hope the prosecutor and Zimmerman's lawyers both do an ethical and good job and that people accept the result as one that makes sense.
It was homes getting broken into, not random people walking down the street. Zimmerman had good reason to investigate the situation.
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It was homes getting broken into, not random people walking down the street. Zimmerman had good reason to investigate the situation.
Martin was a suspect in this investigation for what reason?

People had seen him exiting the homes? He was carrying someone else's stuff? What?
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It was homes getting broken into, not random people walking down the street. Zimmerman had good reason to investigate the situation.
I think there were some burglaries, but they were not so frequent that every person walking slower than expected in the rain warrants a 9-1-1 call.

If that situation warrants a 9-1-1 call then that complex should hire someone trained in law enforcement.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:36 AM   #3914
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I think there were some burglaries, but they were not so frequent that every person walking slower than expected in the rain warrants a 9-1-1 call.

If that situation warrants a 9-1-1 call then that complex should hire someone trained in law enforcement.
A neighbor hood watch is certainly acceptable for this role. Further the neighbor hood watch in this case was setup by the local PD. Why? Because of increased crime. Specifically home burglary.

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Martin was a suspect in this investigation for what reason?

People had seen him exiting the homes? He was carrying someone else's stuff? What?
He wasn't a suspect in any particular investigation that I am aware of.

He was however walking through a residential area with a growing crime rate. This is going to cause increased scrutiny of unknown people cutting through the area.
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