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Old 03-12-2013, 10:43 PM  
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Evangelical church accused of ignoring sexual abuse, “pedophilia ring”

Sovereign Grace and Sovereign Grace Ministries (SGM) and Covenant Life Church (CLC) served with a lawsuit alleging clergy cover-ups of sexual abuse including molestation of children.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:53 AM   #46
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Oh, and can you get that done by Noon? My car is in the shop and it's supposed to be done by then.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:53 AM   #47
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Kill it with fire? No, seriously though, root it out aggressively and pay no attention to "sacred cows." Empower human beings instead of institutions so that the bad ones can't use institutions to hide themselves. Teach and preach the value of individuals, raise children to see themselves as not only worthy but divine - in and of themselves. Cherish equality, seek truth and clarity. Destroy or curtail culture that does not acknowledge the intrinsic value of human life.
Ok I should be more specific, something the human race is actually capable of?......
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:55 AM   #48
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Ok I should be more specific, something the human race is actually capable of?......
I don't know. Keep working on it, I guess.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:56 AM   #49
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I don't know. Keep working on it, I guess.
Ponder this, somewhere around 15% of all Americans can't even tie their own shoes....enlightenment is a distant dream.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:57 AM   #50
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Ponder this, somewhere around 15% of all Americans can't even tie their own shoes....enlightenment is a distant dream.

It is a dream though. It's good to have dreams.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:58 AM   #51
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It is a dream though. It's good to have dreams.
Guess that's why they call it a dream and not attainable reality, it's all good.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:59 AM   #52
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Guess that's why they call it a dream and not attainable reality, it's all good.
Do you dream?
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:00 PM   #53
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Do you dream?
Yes as a matter of fact I had a nightmare last night, forgettable it was.
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:02 PM   #54
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Yes as a matter of fact I had a nightmare last night, forgettable it was.
I find nightmares useful. Just part of a meditative process.
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:05 PM   #55
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I find nightmares useful. Just part of a meditative process.
I typically have 1 of 2 nightmares, they are recurring as a theme and sometimes I wake up and splash some cold water to get out of the funk.
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:08 PM   #56
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I typically have 1 of 2 nightmares, they are recurring as a theme and sometimes I wake up and splash some cold water to get out of the funk.
I see dreams as an exploratory device, it's your mind sort of "talking to itself" without conscious control. If you can figure out what you are trying to say you can discover a bit about yourself.
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:11 PM   #57
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I see dreams as an exploratory device, it's your mind sort of "talking to itself" without conscious control. If you can figure out what you are trying to say you can discover a bit about yourself.
Well one of them is probably going to be my death as it involves traveling at high speeds followed by a sudden stop. The other one really bugs me, as it involves something bad happening to my youngest son......Someone is after him and I can't seem to do anything about it...ah well not the thread for this discussion.
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Cmon guys, less dream talk, more partisan bickering
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I guess this can ultimately be the problem with people in any position of power/influence - they just feel like they're above it all.
True. Think of sandusky at Penn State and that UK kids show tv host Saville who abused tons of kids. The church is full of sinful humans and its vulnerable to attracting creeps.

I serve in 2 childrens ministries and for both we have a 2 adult rule. There always must be at least 2 adults present at all times for the kids protection as well as ours. Parents-don't drop your kids off where this is not a rule!
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