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View Poll Results: Can you chose to hope Reid/Dorsey have a sound plan?
They seems to have a good plan 96 29.09%
Benefit of doubt until proven otherwise 158 47.88%
Those guys have proven to be failures 2 0.61%
Their moves so far cause me great concern that they are inept 46 13.94%
Screw this team 24 7.27%
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Old 03-14-2013, 03:56 PM  
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The constant negativity is tiresome. Who is ready to join me and move on?

I'm finding this constant negativity tiresome. We have sucked for years. We were an embarrassment. A big ****ing joke. I'm done with the negativity.

I wanted Geno. I think we overpaid for Smith. I'm scratching my head over some of their moves.

Reid and Dorsey obviously have a plan. For crissakes, Reid watched every down of every player for the whole ****ing year before he even met with Clark. I'm going to give them AT LEAST a half a season before I start calling them dumb-asses and screaming for their head.

I don't think I'm accepting mediocrity by choosing to not scream and yell and be totally pissed off by the moves so far. If you think so, you are entitled to you opinion.

I was an early and financial supporter of SOC. Season ticket holder for years. I think anyone would label me a hard core Chiefs fan. Just like most of the posters on this board. We deserve better than we have been given by our team. I will be a Chiefs fan until I become worm food. Lifes too short to go around pissed all the time. I did enough of that the last few years.

I'm going to chose to hope that Reid and Dorseys plan is sound and will result in the return of winning football and our first playoff win since the Montana era. Who's with me?

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Old 03-14-2013, 05:22 PM   #106
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Riight.

The 49ers weren't leading 14-10 before that vaunted 49er's defense gave up a 4th quarter touchdown, right? Alex Smith didn't lead them to a tie, right?

Williams' muffed punts hurt the 49ers and put them in bad positions but it's Smith's fault they lost.
They were something like 1 for 14 on third downs.

Alex Smith was 12 for 26.

He was absolutely at fault in that game.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:23 PM   #107
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In 2008 and 2010 he was a game manager who won plenty of games.

Just like Alex Smith.

Cassel has had more success in the NFL than Alex Smith, unfortunately for you.

Two winning seasons > 1.5 winning seasons.
Really? I didnt realize matt cassel had won a playoff game.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:23 PM   #108
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Riight.

The 49ers weren't leading 14-10 before that vaunted 49er's defense gave up a 4th quarter touchdown, right? Alex Smith didn't lead them to a tie, right?

Williams' muffed punts hurt the 49ers and put them in bad positions but it's Smith's fault they lost.
Who hurts a team more? The middle of the order hitter who goes 0-5 and leaves eight on base or the pinch hitter who GIDP to end the game.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:23 PM   #109
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Riight.

The 49ers weren't leading 14-10 before that vaunted 49er's defense gave up a 4th quarter touchdown, right? Alex Smith didn't lead them to a tie, right?

Williams' muffed punts hurt the 49ers and put them in bad positions but it's Smith's fault they lost.
Smith was terrible on third downs.

If you want to blame Williams you must blame Smith too. They were both terrible
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:24 PM   #110
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Yeah, I suppose going to OT against the Super Bowl winning Giants in 2012 made Smith a failure.



Hate on, Haters.
I also think people tend to ignore how much luck and momentum have to do with NFL games. Hell, the 9ers beat the Giants that same season. If they'd played that series as a best of 5, it's entirely possible that the 9ers win a majority of the time.

Again, I'm fine with criticizing Alex. I just don't understand why it's a given that he's going to fail and that there's no reason to even root for the team anymore.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:24 PM   #111
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Smith going 0fer on 3rd downs in that game is what cost them.
No, two turnovers cost them. Period. Two special teams turnovers led to 10 points for the Giants.

That had nothing to do with alex smith.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:24 PM   #112
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Smith going 0fer on 3rd downs in that game is what cost them.
No, their defense giving up a 4th quarter touchdown and Kyle Williams' muffed returns is what cost them.

The Giants defense was sick at that point of the year. The 49ers put up as many points in that championship game as did the New England Patriots two weeks later in a Super Bowl loss.

But no one likes to talk about that aspect.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:24 PM   #113
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He absolutely failed in that game. At a Casselian level.

It was a putrid performance.
no dude. you have no damn clue what cassel's fail looks like -- that's why you pull out all the stats and preach gospel from them is because you don't ****ing know the diff in QB'ing between a goddamn baseball pitcher throwing a football and an experienced crafted QB throwing a football.

Now don't go running off making shit up from this post. I am not saying Alex Smith spells success in any shape or form, in fact, I have been posting that the success of Reid is built on a badass bunch manning the OL. I can't even get a fix on this team's success next season until I see what the hell Reid & Dorsey do with Albert and the OL.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:25 PM   #114
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No, two turnovers cost them. Period. Two special teams turnovers led to 10 points for the Giants.

That had nothing to do with alex smith.
So converting 1 third down the whole game didn't hurt them?
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:25 PM   #115
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i love the fact that people keep throwing this game manager title on cassel.

He wasnt a game manager. He was a game loser.

Alex Smith manages the game so that his team doesnt turn the ball over, and wins.

Cassel is garbage. Alex Smith is more like recyclables. He can be reused, and be useful. Garbage just pollutes the air.
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:25 PM   #116
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Who hurts a team more? The middle of the order hitter who goes 0-5 and leaves eight on base or the pinch hitter who GIDP to end the game.
at best, alex smith would be like a 7 hitter. Middle of the order. YIKES. who wants a singles hitter batting clean up?
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Really? I didnt realize matt cassel had won a playoff game.
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No, two turnovers cost them. Period. Two special teams turnovers led to 10 points for the Giants.

That had nothing to do with alex smith.
Lol. Excuses.

Yes the turnovers hurt them. But if he would have extended some drives on third down maybe those situations wouldn't have happened
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Who hurts a team more? The middle of the order hitter who goes 0-5 and leaves eight on base or the pinch hitter who GIDP to end the game.
If Kyle Williams hadn't muffed punts (especially the punt in overtime), we might be talking about Alex Smith as a Super Bowl QB.

Even if that had happened, I think Harbaugh would have moved on to Kaepernick because he is an immensely talented dual threat QB.
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I also think people tend to ignore how much luck and momentum have to do with NFL games. Hell, the 9ers beat the Giants that same season. If they'd played that series as a best of 5, it's entirely possible that the 9ers win a majority of the time.

Again, I'm fine with criticizing Alex. I just don't understand why it's a given that he's going to fail and that there's no reason to even root for the team anymore.
1-14 in third downs didn't kill momentum?
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