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Old 03-13-2013, 12:09 PM  
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Old 03-16-2013, 07:51 PM   #151
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Oh, sorry...didn't know it was fappin' time.
Here ya go...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...?ir=Weird+News
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:06 PM   #152
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South African Cardinal sez: Pedo's aren't criminals!
Really?
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http://news.yahoo.com/south-africa-c...155418854.html
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:30 PM   #153
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South African Cardinal sez: Pedo's aren't criminals!
Really?
REALLY???
http://news.yahoo.com/south-africa-c...155418854.html
By that asshole's rationale, Ted Bundy wasn't a criminal, he just had an illness.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:57 PM   #154
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By that asshole's rationale, Ted Bundy wasn't a criminal, he just had an illness.
Yeah, that was a pretty dumb thing to say.
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Old 03-18-2013, 06:49 AM   #155
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Can you be more intellectually dishonest? It might run through strains of Catholic thought, but not all of it. John Paul II had a carefully elucidated theology of the body that is quite positive and not rooted in the Augustinian/Jansenist thinking that spurs comments like yours



Sort of. The late John Paul II actually authored much of Humanae Vitae and most of the arguments are couched in philosophical terms and, yes, they hinge on natural law concepts. To say that they simply "violate the will of God" is an oversimplification that, again, borders on intellectual dishonesty. You are almost creating a straw man here.



You have finished creating the straw man. This is a fallacious argument. The Church's teaching was well-established by the time Humanae Vitate (hereafter HV) was written. HV was simply an attempt to re-present old arguments in more contemporary terms. I doubt many would understand the arguments if they were made using the language of Scholastic Philosophy. I would, but would you? (I have an M.A. in Philosophy specializing in the thought of St. Thomas Aquinas)



Wrong. Yet another straw man. You either have a real axe to grind with the Church (which I have no problem with), or just don't really understand the concepts behind the arguments. I'm betting it's the former.



This has already been discussed by InChiefsHell, and I think he nails it.



You've committed the "appeal to probability" fallacy in this argument. The Church does not fail to account for this, because it's not 100 percent true that this will happen (hence the fallacy).



Is this even relevant in the 21st Century? When has the Church last said anything negative about immunization (outside of being critical of immunizations that make use of material from aborted fetuses)?



Hmm...sounds just like the arguments you're making.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:50 AM   #156
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South African Cardinal sez: Pedo's aren't criminals!
Really?
REALLY???
http://news.yahoo.com/south-africa-c...155418854.html
Geez. Good job Cardinal.

He's right, it is a disease, or at least a sickness. AND IT'S ALSO A CRIMINAL ACT...
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:37 AM   #157
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Geez. Good job Cardinal.

He's right, it is a disease, or at least a sickness. AND IT'S ALSO A CRIMINAL ACT...
Well that didn't take long for the media to find a quote like that. They are going to try and destroy Pope Francis. The blitzkrieg will be worse than what they did to Sarah Palin.

I don't know if the Cardinal said that, or what he said was taken out of context, or if he's an agent provocateur.

But if he actually said that, and believes it, all I can say is well he is an African.
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:02 PM   #158
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:05 PM   #159
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Well that didn't take long for the media to find a quote like that. They are going to try and destroy Pope Francis. The blitzkrieg will be worse than what they did to Sarah Palin.
How DARE the media report the news!
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:23 PM   #160
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Don't see how this is a shot at Francis really.
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:27 PM   #161
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Geez. Good job Cardinal.

He's right, it is a disease, or at least a sickness. AND IT'S ALSO A CRIMINAL ACT...
...read the book When Sin Became A Crime
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:31 PM   #162
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South African Cardinal sez: Pedo's aren't criminals!
Really?
REALLY???
http://news.yahoo.com/south-africa-c...155418854.html
I'll bet his wife doesn't put out for a month, maybe two, after him saying shit like that!
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:55 PM   #163
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Part of the role of the ordained life is humility. A Pope Jesus (or a Pope Peter, the first Pope), would not only be presumptuous, but really, really anti-humble.
which is clearly why the pope lives in squalor.
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:56 PM   #164
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We refers to Catholics. Feel free to not include yourself in the "we".

The Pope is like God of course.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:00 PM   #165
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You must not be paying attention then...
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