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Old 02-06-2013, 04:13 PM  
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Each patient now has a time limit to get better. If a patient comes in my clinic with a heart attack; I have 5 days (hypothetical) to get him better. After that the insurance wants me to fix him but not pay a dime. I actually have to give a refund back to the Insurance company. Same shit applies to everything, even patients with psychological problems....who will most likely NEVER get better.

Then they wonder why mother****ers are going out and shooting people up? It's because Obama wants Insurance companies to quadruple their profits at the expense of quality of health being provided to honest hard working Americans. At the same time companies are required to give Insurance to their employees, meaning more profit for insurance companies.

Hospitals are closing all over the place. The one I was born in reported a loss of 14 million last year and is now closing down. Another great hospital is firing 40% of it's doctors soon. Our new system is horrible and discourages good doctors from working inside United States.

Obama has been nothing but a tyrant who has introduced socialism to this country and is slowly taking away our rights. People complained about Bush water boarding three high valued targets now we directly assassinate Americans with no accountability.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:46 AM   #106
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Rates have been going nuts for a decade+.
Yes, due primarily to the govt's interference in HC markets allegedly to make it more affordable. There's been over 2000 mandates. If you have any rationality in you'd see this as pushing the demand curve. Supply and demand is what set prices. When you guys treat it as a right, this is what happens.

Explain to me why prices for elected surgery have declined, now.

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But this year's increase is definitely due to Obamacare. You just know it in your gut right?
Last year's increases too. However, we KNOW this from knowledge of how supply and demand works. You have your head in the sand and deny economic laws which are immutable. There's now a bigger upswing in prices since Obamacare, on top of other increases.

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Every bad news item that's even remotely healthcare-related will be the fault of Obamacare for at least a decade with you guys. That's going to be a lot of fun.
That's right. It's a well deserved but dubious honor along with the multiple years of federal meddling making it more affordable. No results. Just making it worse. It's merely continuing.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:47 AM   #107
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I went to the doctor last week. It was a “new” doctor in the practice–a young girl (at MY age, EVERYBODY is “young”–when I was born, the Dead Sea wasn‘t even sick) who was quite enthusiastic. She was obviously a liberal by her dress and manner. I was thinking of hitting on her, but I don’t like the phrase, “You remind me of my grandfather.”

She asked me what was wrong, and I replied, “I have a cut on my leg and I think it may be getting infected.” She said, “Before we start, I have to ask you a few questions. Are you allergic to any medications?”

I replied, “No.”

She said, “Do you have any guns in the house?”

I said, “HUH??”

She replied, “Guns. Do you have any guns in the house?”

I asked, “Why?”

She said, “I’ve got to ask this question. It is required under the Affordable Care Act.”
Not sure if this whole thing is a joke, a lie, a parody, or just some chain e-mail you received. With your history of idiotic posts, it really is impossible to tell.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:49 AM   #108
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:49 AM   #109
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Not sure if this whole thing is a joke, a lie, a parody, or just some chain e-mail you received. With your history of idiotic posts, it really is impossible to tell.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:58 AM   #110
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What an asshole.

The thing is, there is certainly room for criticism of many gun control measures and aspects of Obamacare. But these idiots start off from such dishonesty (Dr saying she is REQUIRED to ask about guns), there's no taking them seriously. Many people will take that as fact, and the dumbing of the right continues.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:09 AM   #111
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I went to the doctor last week. It was a “new” doctor in the practice–a young girl (at MY age, EVERYBODY is “young”–when I was born, the Dead Sea wasn‘t even sick) who was quite enthusiastic. She was obviously a liberal by her dress and manner. I was thinking of hitting on her, but I don’t like the phrase, “You remind me of my grandfather.”


JFC what a dumb bunch of bullshit.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:59 PM   #112
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Rates have been going nuts for a decade+. But this year's increase is definitely due to Obamacare. You just know it in your gut right?

Every bad news item that's even remotely healthcare-related will be the fault of Obamacare for at least a decade with you guys. That's going to be a lot of fun.
keep burying your head in the sand and hope you don't need health care
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:47 PM   #113
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Not sure if this whole thing is a joke, a lie, a parody, or just some chain e-mail you received. With your history of idiotic posts, it really is impossible to tell.
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Yeah, I think you two shitheads should just keep your ****ing mouths shut.

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Old 03-21-2013, 11:20 AM   #114
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A drug test, I would believe. A physical, for a physically demanding job, I would believe. A naked body check and physical for IT job like Otter claims--No.
CVS requiring employees to undergo height, weight, health assessment

Time to change the argument into "but it's for their own good..."

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/21/cvs-requiring-employees-to-undergo-height-weight-health-assessment/


CVS Caremark is requiring each of its 200,000 employees enrolled in the company’s health plan to undergo height, weight and blood assessments or face a paying an extra $50 a month — or $600 a year — in health insurance costs.

While patient-privacy activists have cried foul, Michael DeAngelis, a CVS spokesman, explained that the goal is health.

“We want to help our employees to be as healthy as they can be, which is why we decided to implement this plan,” he explained in an email to The Daily Caller. “In fact, we have been working for a number of years on ways they can improve their health through preventive measures.”

The new mandate is reportedly causing a stir among patient-privacy advocates.

“This is an incredibly coercive and invasive thing to ask employees to do,” Patient Privacy Rights founder Deborah Peel told the Boston Herald, noting that such policies are becoming more prevalent as health costs increase.
“Rising health care costs are killing the economy, and businesses are terrified,” she continued to the Herald. “Now, we’re all in this terrible situation where employers are desperate to get rid of workers who have costly health conditions, like obesity and diabetes.”

Citing a National Business Group on Health survey, DeAngelis noted that 79 percent of “large employers” offered a health assessment, with 76 percent including incentives for completion.

“To encourage a higher level of participation in our wellness review, we reviewed best practices and determined that an additional cost for those who do not complete the review was the most effective way to incent our colleagues to improve their health care and manage health costs,” he explained.

The Huffington Post, however pointed out that a 2012 Kaiser survey found that just 18 percent of employers requested that their employees undergo an assessment, with some imposing a penalty for noncompliance.
CVS contends that patient privacy will remain protected, in a manner “consistent with HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act)] regulations.”

“All personal health data from these screenings are collected and reviewed by a third party administrator that supports the CVS Caremark Wellness Program and this data is not shared with CVS Caremark — rather it is designed to help employees make the best decisions about their own health care,” DeAngelis added.

CVS Caremark is the largest pharmacy health-care provider in the country.
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Old 03-21-2013, 02:02 PM   #115
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CVS requiring employees to undergo height, weight, health assessment

Time to change the argument into "but it's for their own good..."

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/21/cvs-requiring-employees-to-undergo-height-weight-health-assessment/


CVS Caremark is requiring each of its 200,000 employees enrolled in the company’s health plan to undergo height, weight and blood assessments or face a paying an extra $50 a month — or $600 a year — in health insurance costs.

While patient-privacy activists have cried foul, Michael DeAngelis, a CVS spokesman, explained that the goal is health.

“We want to help our employees to be as healthy as they can be, which is why we decided to implement this plan,” he explained in an email to The Daily Caller. “In fact, we have been working for a number of years on ways they can improve their health through preventive measures.”

The new mandate is reportedly causing a stir among patient-privacy advocates.

“This is an incredibly coercive and invasive thing to ask employees to do,” Patient Privacy Rights founder Deborah Peel told the Boston Herald, noting that such policies are becoming more prevalent as health costs increase.
“Rising health care costs are killing the economy, and businesses are terrified,” she continued to the Herald. “Now, we’re all in this terrible situation where employers are desperate to get rid of workers who have costly health conditions, like obesity and diabetes.”

Citing a National Business Group on Health survey, DeAngelis noted that 79 percent of “large employers” offered a health assessment, with 76 percent including incentives for completion.

“To encourage a higher level of participation in our wellness review, we reviewed best practices and determined that an additional cost for those who do not complete the review was the most effective way to incent our colleagues to improve their health care and manage health costs,” he explained.

The Huffington Post, however pointed out that a 2012 Kaiser survey found that just 18 percent of employers requested that their employees undergo an assessment, with some imposing a penalty for noncompliance.
CVS contends that patient privacy will remain protected, in a manner “consistent with HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act)] regulations.”

“All personal health data from these screenings are collected and reviewed by a third party administrator that supports the CVS Caremark Wellness Program and this data is not shared with CVS Caremark — rather it is designed to help employees make the best decisions about their own health care,” DeAngelis added.

CVS Caremark is the largest pharmacy health-care provider in the country.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:49 PM   #116
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Um, how was that "well played"? Otter claimed he had to had to undergo a naked body inspection. Before he was hired.

The article is about charging a higher insurance premium for employees who don't get their weight and blood checked.
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:29 AM   #117
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Um, how was that "well played"? Otter claimed he had to had to undergo a naked body inspection. Before he was hired.

The article is about charging a higher insurance premium for employees who don't get their weight and blood checked.
You sure like to beat that "naked body search" phrase every chance you get. Don't get me wrong I'm not surprised it's just you grasping to the straws you have left. I was in a gown but had to get naked to get in the gown. It's a phenomenon that the doctors around here do.

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An IT guy. And they stripped you naked to look for "scars, needle marks, bite marks...?" They required as part of getting the job to check your blood pressure and heart condition?

Either you're not mentioning some very important and relevant job aspects, the employer is ****ing nuts, or this is complete

And, as I said before, I don't see how any of this would have anything to do with Obamacare.
The point is you swearing up and down that things like this would never happen but yet, here it is happening for CVS Employees.

CVS Employees.

The guys who ring you up when you by a bag of Halls Cough Drops and stock shelves with things like tampons and q-tips. You said this would never happen due to Obamacare. Go back and read your own posts if you don't believe me. Yet here it is and it's just the beginning of this kind of thing happening throughout the US.

If you would be objective for one minute instead of running around the room like your heads on fire defending everything your deity does, right, wrong or ludicrous, like he's some all knowing, all seeing, flawless god you might be taken seriously.

But I'll let you get back to sucking his wet rubbery one. It's what you do best. Carry on slave.
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Lord knows I am no fan of the POTUS but there really is no need to make things up to argue about. As of April my company will be offer only one health plan with a very high out of pocket deduct. It comes with a HSA but the problem with that is I can't use it on my son who is on my coverage because my X has him as a dependent for tax purposes. At this point I don't see the affordable care act making things more affordable.
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Lord knows I am no fan of the POTUS but there really is no need to make things up to argue about. As of April my company will be offer only one health plan with a very high out of pocket deduct. It comes with a HSA but the problem with that is I can't use it on my son who is on my coverage because my X has him as a dependent for tax purposes. At this point I don't see the affordable care act making things more affordable.
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