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Old 03-22-2013, 10:26 AM  
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Chiefs are looking for a 2nd and a pick in 2014 for Albert


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Old 03-22-2013, 11:08 AM   #106
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Guess that means no leaping the Jaguars for Geno
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:09 AM   #107
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Guess that means no leaping the Jaguars for Geno
Yeah....because we can't trade down and still get a LT.
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:09 AM   #108
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This isn't about any specific player, it's about the total plus/minus factor of the offseason.


If you lose a guy in free agency and replacement him with a similar guy, it's a wash

If you lose a guy in a trade and draft a similar guy, it's a wash

Seems like the only place we made any significant player improvement is the defensive secondary.

The offseason is looking like a push so far .... disappointing.
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:10 AM   #109
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This is what I've expected all along. A second round pick this year along with a fifth or so at some point. If they can get it, more power to them.

Despite what's been said in this thread, Albert is neither young nor indispensable. He's 28 years old and will turn 29 mid-season. He had issues with back spasms that caused him to miss the better part of five games. No one knows if he can stay healthy for the next five seasons and if not, he is not worth $10 million per year in cap space. That's retarded.

Trading Albert and drafting a Joekel, Fisher or Lane is a calculated risk. But when your new front office is dealing with one of the worst football teams in the NFL over the course of the past 20 years, calculated risks will be necessary from time to time.
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:11 AM   #110
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This isn't about any specific player, it's about the total plus/minus factor of the offseason.


If you lose a guy in free agency and replacement him with a similar guy, it's a wash

If you lose a guy in a trade and draft a similar guy, it's a wash

Seems like the only place we made any significant player improvement is the defensive secondary.

The offseason is looking like a push so far .... disappointing.
TE and WR not better? QB is ten times better
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:11 AM   #111
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Yeah....because we can't trade down and still get a LT.
According to you the Jags will draft Joeckel. Why would Reid trade down then if he wants Joeckel to be his sex slave?
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:11 AM   #112
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For those that say we are pretty much moving sideways in this off season just have to look at it this way..

Say what you want about Alex Smith, he is an upgrade on the garbage we had last year..IDK, what is up with Albert, but Reid and Company must not like something...

We draft Joeckel, bring in Alex Smith, and draft Ryan Nassib in round 2..We get a franchise LT, a bonafide starting QB, and a great QB project..Greg Cossell says Nassib may be the best QB prospect in this draft pool..

Say what you will, but I think it would be great if we can get Joeckel and Nassib in the draft..Albert or Joeckel and Nassib? I pick Joeckel and Nassib..
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:12 AM   #113
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:13 AM   #114
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And idk what the **** it is about people hating on Luke Joeckel?

Shariff Floyd, Sheldon Richardson, Barkevious Mingo, Sam Montgomery, Margus Hunt and Cory Lemonier are some of the best DL/pass rushers in this draft and Joeckel owned every single one of them this season.
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:13 AM   #115
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With a new regime in control of the Kansas City Chiefs, many have assumed that there will be the usual amount of roster-churning during the initial offseason. Couple that with possessing the No. 1 overall draft pick, and it's an exciting time for those who follow the club. The offensive line is certainly in a state of flux, as we've seen the team release starting RT Eric Winston and place the franchise tag on LT Branden Albert. Subsequently, however, there have been reports that Albert is on the trading block, so perhaps this is an indication that that No. 1 pick will be used on a player to replace him.

Buttressing that belief is a report from Adam Caplan of the Sideline View on Friday morning. Caplan indicates that a contingent from the Chiefs -- including GM John Dorsey and HC Andy Reid -- are headed to Texas A&M to conduct a private workout with LT prospect Luke Joeckel. Thereafter, per Caplan, the group will head to Oklahoma to check out fellow OT prospect Lane Johnson. While it's believed that Joeckel is more suited to the left side, Johnson has been cited as a player that can fit in at either tackle spot. This could be important depending upon what the Chiefs do with Albert.
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:14 AM   #116
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And idk what the **** it is about people hating on Luke Joeckel?

Shariff Floyd, Sheldon Richardson, Barkevious Mingo, Sam Montgomery, Margus Hunt and Cory Lemonier are some of the best DL/pass rushers in this draft and Joekel owned every single one of them this season.
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:14 AM   #117
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And idk what the **** it is about people hating on Luke Joeckel?

Shariff Floyd, Sheldon Richardson, Barkevious Mingo, Sam Montgomery, Margus Hunt and Cory Lemonier are some of the best DL/pass rushers in this draft and Joekel owned every single one of them this season.
While having to protect the most mobile QB in cfb. That is exhausting and not easy.
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:16 AM   #118
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Joeckel is 7 years younger than Albert...

That's all I got.
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:17 AM   #119
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According to you the Jags will draft Joeckel. Why would Reid trade down then if he wants Joeckel to be his sex slave?
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:17 AM   #120
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Joeckel is coming from a spread system. I'd rather have fisher seems to have a higher upside.


Not real excited about potentially having a rookie rt an a rookie lt nex year
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